Professional And Celebrity Hair Stylist Adrin Seven Interview

Make sure you like subscribe and hit that bell icon hello and welcome to let's sip and talk with frema on this monday. It is great to start the work week out with adrian seven on let's sip and talk with freema. I'M so excited i've heard so much about him. He'S had the pleasure of stalin working with some top-notch celebrities, patti labelle naomi campbell, gabrielle union he's been on um featured on different shows. The martha stewart show good morning, america, all this good stuff, i'm just so excited to dive into his journey, see how he got started and see what his new ventures are. So without further ado, we're going to learn about adrian seven, i'm so excited wow, wow wow. It is a pleasure to have you on. I really appreciate you coming on and talking with me today. How are you i am very good. It is so good to be on this show with you. I am like enamored to be here because i'm like i get to interview with someone who you know who has been doing this for a while, so i am happy to be here. I appreciate you and then also we're from the same hometown - yes, indeed honey, so that makes me feel even so much better, because one of the things i've learned about being from orangeburg orangeburg is one of a kind because rarely in this country do you get to Be from a place where there are two black colleges in a small town absolutely and we get exposed to so much so when i moved away to the city, i'm like i never felt like. I was from a small town because artwork was neat to me. It wasn't boneless or not like that right i felt like you know it was always you know. I always had that tenacity, so i'm so ever grateful for those groups. Trust me they keep me going. You know, that's what it is absolutely. So. Let me ask you um, should i call you seven or adrian, you know what everybody calls me. Seven, you know adrian. It is i'm from orangeburg. My mother named me. Adrian adrian, is it seven? Is my business name? You know so you're talking about business today, seven! So seven, it is so if you don't mommy asking okay after high school, whatever what made you or even before that, when did you know when did seven know, he wanted to start doing hair like where did this all begin? Well, i always knew i wanted to do hair, since i was three because i love coloring girl's hair in the coloring book, so i always kind of had a love for hair and i did it. You know in high school i did hair. I played with dolls. Those kind of things that girlish boys go through, you know what i mean so, but i didn't want to embarrass nobody or make my family feel some kind of way. So i hit for a while. You know me and then, once my parents found out, i could do hair. They were like. You should make this your job, because i was looking for a job, so they allowed me to work in their home. While i went to school all throughout high school and college, i did hair, you know what i mean, but i was taught to go to college, because if you know you want to be somebody, you want to go to where you should go to college. So i went to college first, but i did hear all throughout while i was going to ow and while i was going to clapton and so after graduating from klaplin, i moved to atlanta. I worked in advertising for about two years and realized. I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life, because i've been with my hairdresser, so i'm like why not just do hairdressing, but do it. You know i'm like if i'm gon na, do it, i'm gon na apply corporate strategies and do what i learned in clapping into hairdressing, and that's really what makes me who i am today really it's the skills, the tools, the things i learned while going to claflin And ow, you know what i mean because it's a lot of people skills and a lot of you know how to live, and all of that you know, celebrities come and go the people. I treat them all the same if they your mama, my mama, my aunt, the celebrity whatever, and i got a lot of that from school. You know what i'm eating so um yeah. I know you had like you mentioned. You know you did the hair on the dolls, but when you, when you actually start doing um people hair, how was that for you? As far as because you know i guess i never did hair you know to your level. Of course you know friends, hair and stuff, but did you you kind of practice on your friend's hair or you know? Was that, like a trial and error, how do you handle to me that's the hardest job, seven doing somebody else's hair, because it's like what, if they don't like it? So how do you kind of think about well, for me, i thought about styles. I like first, you know like what was so good on the person and how could i create the style on that person so that they look good, so that's kind of where i come from. I had some cousins who did hair um. There were darlene and kameli jameson and they were singers and they used to sing with a group. So when i was like 12 13, we used to practice at the salon, but i would help them clean up and they would show me how to do hairstyles. They gave me a mannequin, so i got to practice on a mannequin while i was like 13 or 14 and then when i was like 14. One of my friends in school asked me to do some finger waves on her hair and when i did the finger waves, her cousin liked it when her cousin saw it she was like. Well hey, can you do my hair? I did her cousin hair. She was like sure, then i did her cousin's sister here so now i'm like oh, i don't need two or three people. If my momma come home, she like well, who did your hair? Your mommy was like real, so my mother was like well, oh, you can give him like ten dollars. So then i started charging people seven dollars so mine too, but i was 15 by the time i was 16. I was making enough money to pay for anything. I wanted on my own, so i was like. Oh this is it you know, but i thought to go to school first. Yes, all right right right! That'S amazing! That'S good, and it only gets better from there. So now you're in college you're doing hair. You know all that good stuff. How did you end up branching out, you know to to a bigger city? Well, actually what happened was i was applying to go to beauty school, so i'm applying to go to the schools in atlanta, the schools in georgia all over. They wasn't replying to my application. I didn't get no answer back. I even applied to go to dallas in charlotte. Still no answer back. So i'm like okay cool one of my aunts, passed away september 11th at pentagon in dc, and we had to come up for her funeral, which was like october 18th, or something like that. When we came up, i saw the dudley beauty college on the application. So i said, oh, i can go to dallas in dc, stay with one of my family members and go to school with them, because i was living in atlanta at the time. So i moved it. I asked one of my aunts. Could i stay with her? She said: well, you might as well stay with your cousin because she could, you know, use the help this at the third. You know it would be better. So i moved in with my cousin, which was her daughter for about a year and um went to beauty. School got my license started doing hair and i thought i was going to move back to atlanta, but i was working at a makeup counter because i took a class with makeup. While i was in beauty school and at while i was taking the class. There was a counter manager who showed me how to do makeup long story. Short tyro banks, mother, came to get her makeup done and forgot her powder the next day and brought tyra back with her. Oh wow. She brought her with me. I didn't even know she was tara mama. She was like adrian. I want you to meet my daughter and then i'm like. Oh my god, that's tyra banks. So i had been reading these books. One of them is up here. It'S called samsung beauty, so i knew oscar james was tyra banks, hair, stylist and oscar james is from florence south carolina. Okay, so i told tyra. Oh i love your hairdresser. Just very boo, boo, boo boo. She, like you, know what his agent is ken barbosa. You should go blah blah blah, so i called new york went to meet kimber bose and i listened. I had a little traffic keeper pictures, so it was not a pretty sight. I had a little pictures. I didn't cook with my polaroid camera, putting this ain't it, but this is what you need to do, and so he told me what to do, and so that's when i started entering hair shows competitions doing those type of things getting in environments where i can kind Of like get exposure - and you know one of the good things about being from orangeburg and being able to move to the city is all of the opportunities here were big to me, so i ceased them all loving it anytime. Someone gave me an opportunity, hey i'm taking it, i'm taking it, i'm taking it, and i made it more about the opportunity and i knew something would come from it in the end. So that is something and especially being from a place like this from one very because we get to get so much exposure, henderson davis players, theater actress, you know what i mean, so that is in our blood. So when we go, they like well how you leading i'm like a girl. That'S all i know yeah you're right. I love that. So look at me, i'm just nosy. I just love to talk so now, you're in dc. So what what are some pointers? Maybe, for some people that may be watching now that you know don't know exactly what it is they should do so, like you said, you walked in with your polaroids and things, but they told you what you should do so what what's important? What are some of the pointers you can give um that he gave you as far as what things you should do to to. You know strive for greatness. Thank you. That is so good. You asked me that question because i've never been asked that, but to get right down to it. Um one of the things he told me to do was definitely test with photographers meaning work for free. Let the photographers get to know you build relationships, get your work out there, because people need to see your work and a lot of times, especially as new artists and new people, we're so quick to get the bag. But we got to let people know what we can do. You know what i mean, and so sometimes it's not always about securing the bag, because you can get more exposure and people see you more and then you get a bigger bag in the end, then you get a cute coin in the beginning, and so that was Resonating with me, seven, that's definitely resonating with me. Yes, so you know, and so in the beginning you want to test do stuff. You know what i mean get your name out there and then, after a while everybody's, going to start paying you that stuff definitely happens. So he told me to do that to get out, and so that's what i did so i started entering like. I said air shows working with photographers. Doing hair magazines photo shoots all of those stuff and just getting out there and that's what kind of got me out there, but really being in the right environment, also reading the right books and reading the right stuff. You know i had to be prepared for when i got the call for patti labelle, because i had to have be in the right mindset right and i had already been reading books like the secret, the game of life and how to play it. Who moved my cheese? So my personal development and me even listening to, i would always say you know like having quotes, come to your phone or scriptures or following the right people. You know you want to have that being in a positive environment that you create, because it's not up to no one else to give us a positive environment. We can be in a negative environment and still remain positive, but we cannot be in a positive environment. You know what i'm saying: that's the that's the whole part so having some of that, because, honestly, sometimes being on the road, you know you go to bed earlier late at night and you um, there's stuff going on in the background people. This ain't working this that the third and you still have to show up and operate in the middle. Yes, yes, you might show out too, but you know what i mean and so um yeah. So let me ask you - and you don't have to answer this. You know if you don't want to uh in your journey. You know even um before you got the call from patti labelle, but in your journey, like you said you had to you, know the motivational um things coming to your phone. You had to surround yourself with positive people. Um read: did you find yourself as you're evolving having to leave people where they're at you know? I definitely did, and one of the things i realized is that's part of evolution. You know what i mean and it's not that you're, even leaving them where they're at, but just like when the seasons change certain things don't come with the new season and it's not that i'm shining on you or whatever. But one of the things i always realize is surround yourself with those people. That'S going to take you to the next level. I'M always i've always been a teacher's pet and i don't care what nobody say in life. I hope i can say this, but you're gon na have to kiss ass before you kick it and it ain't always about you, give what i'm saying yeah like stroke, people egos don't make them. You know what i'm saying like it's. Okay to you know to get what you want, because sometimes it's it's just about the exchange. At the end of the day, i don't have to come home with you, you're, not the husband. That'S making me crazy, you not the person, whatever we're just gon na. Do this transaction in a in a good way and make it rain and clear it out, but you know, but that comes over time, listening growth! Yes, yes and making mistakes, that's part of it accept them! That'S one of the things i realized because you're not going to learn how to leave a person until you practice, leaving somebody else, you're, giving them fans and you're going to practice on them. People and you know let go and outgrow and that's part of it and you may come back. You know what i mean. Love is like a bird set it free. If it's yours, it'll come back. If it doesn't, they won't admit it to me. Absolutely look at it. That'S the way to look at it. So so let me ask you that phone call from patti labelle now i know you've met tyra. Her hair stylist now was patti labelle. The first um celebrity that you actually styled that first big phone call. It was the video that was bad. Where were you? What were you doing? I need all of it. Okay, cool now! Listen! If you want the story, how many minutes i got because i got the story, so i want to know okay, cool, so i'll just decide. So what happened was patti labelle came into town for um, national association of black owned broadcasters and when she came in town, her hairdresser wasn't able to make it for the gig. But he sent me in his name, is gerald um and he's a great guy, but he sent me and he styled the wig. He did the wig for her and he said seven. I need you to go. Do her hair for me because i have clients, i'm not gon na be able to go okay, so i went to do her wig just comb it on her. I didn't have to do anything because he already prepped it so pretty much. I witnessed his assistant. You know what i mean right and when i went to do her hair that time she was like. Oh, i can tell by the way you comb, you know how to use it like you know. You know how to do some hair right. So there was another time where he wasn't able to make it for good morning america and they were like seven gerald, can't make it. We need you to come now now. This is the part about being ready because i had a passport and she was going to be in toronto, montreal canada. So there was like seven dude, you got your passport and i was like yes, it was like. We need you to be to the airport at this time of time. I had six clients, so i was like. Oh my god. I had six clients in the chair. I had to ask some friends in the salon that was stylish was like hey. Can you do her? Can you do her? I split them up. I was like patty level, just called ask me: can i come wow like i'm sorry, i have to leave, but what do i do and you know it was - i left six clients and got on the plane and went to montreal canada and it was my first Tour and what was so unique about it, that was july 1st of 2005 and she was 61. and if you know, numerology 2005 is the year of seven plus one is seven, and the first of july is the seventh month wow. So it was all a whole bunch going on that day. Yes, yes, yes, wow, wow, that's very interesting before we continue we're going to take a quick promotion. Commercial break. Excuse me, i know alex is going to kill me right now because we're over but hold on seven we're coming right back. 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It was the beginning of the first set of tours because she was a busy artist, so there will be tours as well as what we call public appearances, because when you work with celebrities, especially a recording artist, they're, not always touring so sometimes martha. Stewart may want to see them or a commercial may want to use them for something. So we go there and so we're now a contractor with that, let's say for instance, or facility or school or whatever the case may be, and so um. We did a lot of work. The beginning was a tour, so she was on tour. It was fourth of july like a liberty tour, so it went from montreal, canada to new york, philadelphia and a few other cities. So that was the first tour and then it was a bus tour where we got on bus and went to sleeping on a tour bus, but it's so fun because i mean those are these. I mean it's almost like you're on a house in a trailer rolling. So it's you know, it's it's unique to see that you know what i mean so um. Excuse me. Yes, okay! Yes, thank you to you. So did you you felt like okay now did you feel like? Oh, my god, my dreams are coming true before you got that phone call, even when you met tyra banks or or at that moment, once you filled in you know the first time for her. Did you feel, like you know what this is it? I am going to be seven, you know what honestly i knew i was going to be seven before i met her because what happened, so i remember being in orangeburg a long time, and there was this year - uh place rachelle's island and she used to sell patti Labelle'S makeup and it was kind of one of my dreams to always meet patti labelle like i would have loved to meet her. You know just heard tony bryson and whitney houston. You know what i mean. I'Ve seen whitney houston and have been with whitney houston, but i've. Never. You can't understand, work with her, but i have very hard presence, so that was cool nonetheless. So when i moved when i went to dudley's, i already knew like i'm about to do hair big because i'm not going to move from orangeburg and go here and do all this regular hairdresser. Like i'm like i'm about to do this big - and i knew there were a lot of big people doing here, and none of them did gray hair like so i was like. All you got to do is just do regular styles. You don't have to do finger waves, waterfall, scrunchies, so anyway long story short. I went and um i uh told myself. I'M gon na be seven because seven was my lucky number whitney houston had seven dogs at her wedding. It took me seven time to get my driver's license bottle drive yeah, so i don't need to drive honey. But yes, so um yeah, if you yeah, you knew it. You know that pattern of l with the sevens seven is my life number everything vibrates, the seven. So you know it's, it's definitely been a good thing for me in the beginning, you know 97 is bigger than me not saying that, but like i get what you're saying you know, actually you were big. You know um, i'm saying before you left orangeburg, because you know we discussed a little bit. You know when i came out high school when you came out and as a young person you know back, then you know your name was out there. You get what i'm saying so you were already huge. So when alan you know mitch - and i was like okay, you know, i don't know if i know you you know, but i do know him, you know so yeah you were already there. You know. So your name was already ringing bells you're already hot. You know the hot topic when it came to hair, so you know to say you keep it up and still doing great things. So so what you're doing now? You know, i know still the hair. How do you feel i just asked you two different questions, because i just i was so intrigued. You know, but let me let me take a step back. How do you feel about the whole trending of you know the wigs? Now you get what i'm saying like? That'S something huge as opposed to not was before you know. I think there are things with hairdressing and beauty that are fetish that come and go. You get what i'm saying and i think lace wigs. You know especially lace frontals and all of that it's two things. One is convenient because women don't have to do a whole lot and can look good, so they're not doing it to insult themselves or hurt themselves they're doing it for the convenience. Yeah. That'S really what it's about and the baby hairs is just the contour of the wig. So it don't look like a stocking on the top of the head because it really is gon na look like you got on pantyhose like you got so you know. So i think, hey it's a cute fan, but you know, cutting color will always be here. Fads come and go. You know there are wrong ways to put it on, so you don't want to do that. I always encourage going to somebody who know it or learn it good enough. You know what i mean, but you know you want to learn what not to do so. You don't have like bad edges and all of that, your hair broken. I got some oil that can help your edges grow because i had a lot of clients who just was going through stuff and it was like seven distances, helping my edges yeah, so we're for ones that, because i'm gon na be honest with you, i don't wear Wigs often i wear [ __ ] beans like i threw this on. I i didn't like it. I got a lot of like you know, but hey. It was easy for me, but i noticed um like if i do um go. You know, travel have a girls trip whatever. If i do wear a wig, i noticed so quickly that that stocking cap either was too tight, and i can just tell that some of my hair may be gone. You know - and it happens so fast so for people that wear it all the time i can imagine so where can they find your oil? You know for the one that they need. They can find it at on our website. It'S sev and cole.com. I think my assistant is able to put it in the chat or share with you all where to put it um, okay, cool, so she's, going to put the link in there. Thank you so much zen. I cannot do this by myself. It takes a team and i'm so grateful for zen and everyone who helps to do this. You know what i mean, that's why i say seven's bigger than me now, like it ain't, seven, no more, it's helping others and allowing them to live their dreams. You know that's what i'm like. If i don't fulfill all mine, i might as well create a space for others for for real lives and see, and that's amazing. You know because uh a lot of and i'm gon na say us, because we just keep it real on this show we don't like to um, share knowledge. Um, give back in certain ways, and i don't mean financially, i mean just like you were giving us pointers. You know on what to do if you want to excel in your dreams and stuff a lot of people. Don'T do that and, like you mentioned you, you succeeded in your goals. You know you've made it and now you're opening up the window for other people to make it and a lot of people. Just don't do that so kudos to you for even giving other people the opportunity you know to even work with you to even you know, be a part of the team. So that's amazing in itself. Thank you. Thank you, and you know to piggyback off of that. One of the things i've learned in life, people that don't share or that don't want to share, really don't have much to share because one of the things i like, for instance when i first wanted to started, doing celebrities - and you know i had been journeying to Do this before i met tyra banks and i was asking different like makeup, artists or people in the area how to come. Oh, i think we, okay, there we go. I'M sorry froze a little bit yes frozen, so you said you're right yeah. So what i said beautiful you was asking people in the area yeah. You know like for help or different little things what to do, and once i got ahead of them, i realized. Oh, they didn't have nothing like. I was. I was going after somebody that didn't really have much and i shouldn't you know: first person never said that, but it makes so much sense. You know, and so that's when i i started to realize and angels aside - it's not even them because chemo what a lot of it is, is systemic and one of the things i've learned. You really have to go to the root of people, because some people are born without like different things. They may not have family or a supportive family, or you know, mother and father that love them or i don't know um. Yes, am i on yeah yeah. It'S just for some reason: it's stalling, but yeah we're still on yeah acknowledging that's what i say. We can't get upset about things. We have nothing. No, you know what technology gives us. The ability for you to be in your living room me to be my home office. Thank you, technology, exactly um, anyway. Yes, but one of the things i've learned. You know you got to kind of see where people are coming from get to know them get to know the back layers of them and realize, like you know what, because one of the things i realize as a black person and or a person of color, whenever We try to associate all of ourselves as one we're doing the same thing that the white men want us to do. We come from different tribes, different cultures, different backgrounds. We came on the same boat, but not from the same part of africa. So some of us just not gon na get along like that, but you know who you f with you know your time and you figure people out and those who don't you just put them inside, because we are the descendants of slaves and we are still better Than what they was yesterday yeah, so you know what i mean. I don't care who you is where you come from or whatever you show lame went through what they went through. So, thank god for their ancestors because i'm like, and that's all that matters all of that. I can't do nothing about that. I can only do something right now today, with what i got absolutely absolutely 100. You said a mouthful and that's the god, honest truth, because i always question that people don't want to. You know, share information. You know like do they feel you know how they always say. It'S the crab and the barrel mentality, and you know you scared that somebody's going to you know achieve their goals and then leave you that i mean it's just i don't. If it's meant for you, it shall be. You know if it's going to happen, it's going to happen, but yeah you got to stop being so i don't know ugly towards one another. Yes, i love it. I love it bless them living. I'M sorry, i didn't hear you. I just said: bless them live and let live live and let live absolutely absolutely. I love your spirit. So what do you have in store like in the next five years? What do you see? Seven, what what you think you're gon na have going on um. Definitely leaving it leading an army of others, you know what i mean, because i realize duplication will take you farther and leverage. You know what i mean. That'S definitely the space i'm in right now i still do beauty. I definitely see our products being out for others to you, know, grow and learn from them and helping people. You know because there comes a point in their life, where you can't give it so far and do so much by yourself or for yourself and if you're not helping for the common good of those or the people or the village or the world or the you Know what i mean it's not going to elevate, but so much, and so now i realize like this ain't, even about me. This is about the people like this is about us like helping being a leader like what i'm gon na do sit right here on the first row, or am i gon na move and allow people to get on the stage? And you know, and and so that's the space i'm in right now is definitely doing that, of course having fun making a brain clearing out. I beat somebody would try me, but you know i'll just decide just having fun. Definitely i'm getting me my album fit to come out, but make me a album: okay, yes, honey, because i love having fun singing playing and doing all of that and i'll be freestyling. So i'm like you know what, if, if cardi b can make it out, that's something amazing! Yes, okay! So i'm looking forward to that. But yes, yes, yes excuse me. Thank you. Can you let me we're gon na have to have you come back home when that album dropped? Yes, okay, i am rooting for you, i'm rooting for you. I thank you for stopping in because i know you're a very busy person. You know so it means a lot just to say you took the time out, you know to come on this little country girl show. I appreciate you so much and thank you i'm sorry. I'M sorry go ahead. The country is where it's at the whole world is country honey. It'S only one new york, one florida one, you know, but it's a whole bunch of orangeburgs all over the world. You absolutely you're, not correct. So one thing you kind of answered it earlier, but one thing i asked all my guests when they come on for the little sevens out there. The the kids that want to you know aspire to do: hair, um, they're scared, they're, nervous, they're scared to approach someone. That'S already been in the business they're scared to approach. Someone like you to say: hey. How do i go out there? How do i do it? What encouraging words would you give them? I would encourage them to surround themselves with people that are doing it and get in the right environment. Follow the fellow who follows his dream, because he's going to lead you to the right way, we're not we're not doing this by ourselves. This is a world and you got to follow those people that are doing what you do so that you can get in the environment and to grow. You'Ll, learn the how to's and what not to do, and all of that when you get in the arena. But you got to show up to the arena. Show up to the arena get around those people, that's going where you want to go, that's really it and then follow the one that you like and be more like the one that resonate with you love it love it love it and was there anything today that We did not discuss that. You want to put out there in the universe. Um. Thank you for having me um definitely go get some evergreen oil, so we can reclaim your edges and you know, and let's continue to live and let live love god. You know what i mean: make it rain and clear it out and give the next girl her 15 minutes. So you can come back and do it again? Yes, definitely definitely. Definitely. Definitely, i think. Can you hear me? Oh, you can hear me good. Okay, you have a little delay. I appreciate it. I appreciate you so so much um. I enjoyed this conversation again. Thank you for coming on. You know um and hey we. We must do this again. We must do this again and listen. You have been such a gracious host when i tell you, i love being in your environment, your space that green chair. All of that really resonates, and so i am so here for it. Thank you for being and doing what you do, because i feel like and that's what i love about where we are today. You can be whatever wherever you are, you know and whoever you are so. Thank you so much for allowing me to be in here, and yes, this is great. I am thank you yes, honey. Yes, she said sing about edges. Okay, i got here then. Oh, you ain't, never ain't! Much! On my edges! No lord have mercy. There is a storm out on the ocean. They will surely drift away yes, honey. If your edges ain't anchored in jesus, they will drift away all right drift away. Then they're gon na have to contact it for some oil, yes and some classes, because you don't have bad hair. You got bad habits, the hair don't grow out bad, it's what we do to the hair to make it bad and we got ta learn what not to do that's when you can save the integrity of the hair, because hair is both art and science artistically. We can style it any way we want, but scientifically there are rules that we just have to obey so that we don't compromise the integrity of the hair. That'S just nothing like having a stylist that know about hair as well and not just doing a style. You know they're telling you hey, you need to do this and that i see your hair's damaging. You say that a little you know they're schooling, you, while you're white, while they're styling it so yeah a lot of people need to be more like you said they need to learn. Well, you know, you know what god is working on them. Just like he's working on me and you and two things: i've learned in life - you never insult no one's mother or their tribe, because certain people - that's just how they do it, they're not dead. Yet they don't want to mess your hair up they're just on their way. You give it a reason not there yet well, then that prompts me to another question: seven. So if they're not there, yet look at me that promised me to something else. So if they're not there yet, then why - and i guess you probably know where i'm going with this - why why go into that journey on other people's hair? If you know that you're not doing what you should be doing at that moment, if that makes sense, but you know, if you don't know you don't know it, can people get sued for that? How does that work? I mean they can and you know we have stuff out there for that, there's apps. For that too, you know, so i can definitely help them but um. What not only that, if you don't know you don't know you know, there's four phases of learning: either you don't know you don't know either. You know you don't know, and then your brand answers the question. Yes, so you know what i mean so yeah we can share with them tips and stuff to let them know, because that's really what it's about and some people are great artists they're. Just not they don't understand the science of it, but they can style it all. The way they want, so we just learned you need two people. One is good with your haircare. One is good for your hair dudes you like when you want to go somewhere special, got you and, like your brand, says seven also as a coach for beauty, industry professionals and aspiring hair designers, and that's why i was getting with that. You know because we do need people out there. That'S gon na coach, our ones that isn't there yet you know so y'all make sure y'all reach out um. You know, if you know you know just be real with yourself. If you know like hey, i'm not there. Yet i can, i can do hair really good, but i know i don't know the science behind it. Hey. You have him right here that can help you um alan said the app with your. What is that about? What is the the app you know? What is to inbox me and i can send you the link and you can check it out, because i can show you better and i know we're about to hop on okay, so i can show you tell him if he invites me, i can show it to You and then that way you can see this 90 show so i'll show you some one minute, video i'll show it that way. You can see it got. You got you. Okay, definitely. Definitely. Definitely i'm gon na have to send you a friend request, seven on instagram and facebook. Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, okay, okay, i appreciate you so so much. I enjoyed this conversation again um. Thank you for staying on. As long as you did. Thank you so much. We look forward to coming back. We will definitely be back we'll just arrange some things, so we can come back and we definitely hope that you know we was able to help you do your thing as well. Thank you. So much. Definitely you you answered a lot of my questions. Um lameek said he you did your hair, hey. I remember her. Oh my god. Yes, yes, okay! Well again, thank you so much and we can't wait to see you back seven. Hopefully, you know i'll be somewhere in a big city one day and we can meet up for lunch or something i would love for us to do that freeman. Thank you so much and much success on you and let's sip and talk with primo. It'S only up from here and you'll continue to strive you guys. That was a great conversation i really enjoyed it. I can't wait to come back on dropping two albums. It'S gon na be amazing and i'm gon na be right. There. You know to bring you guys. The good information guys, i hope, y'all enjoyed the show and, as we always say, unless up and talk with fremont peace, you