Faces Of London | Emma Rego In Conversation With British Hair Stylist Lino Carbosiero Mbe

Hello, everyone and welcome back to the youtube channel today. I'M joined by the amazing lino cover sierra one of the top hairdressers in the uk, and i can say that, because i've had lino cut, my hair himself he's been awarded an mbe off her majesty. The queen. He'S an amazing father, a great friend and he's here with us today to discuss his journey in hairdressing. So to start off with, where did your career begin? Was there any particular influence in your younger years? Firstly, thank you for that grace yeah i mean hairdressing. It fell into my lap, i, as a young guy, always had jobs weekend, jobs after school jobs, and i had every type of job you could imagine just because i loved the idea of work it was. It was embracing me by my parents who came over for me to leave both of them. That'S an amazing thing to have at the beginning, yeah they came over with just their suitcases and they you know they work so hard, so surviving and um, and i did absolutely learn their work. I think, and i actually love that work and i still do whereas school wasn't my greatest time i i today, maybe they would say that i had. I don't know i don't know mass learning problems. In my day i was published at school and that's fine. I love darla and i love sport, so you were good at the creative things. I guess so. Yeah literally i had a job in windsor. It was a hair salon upstairs and downstairs. It was run by these italian guys. I love working for them and i i was working downstairs mainly selling. You know huge pasta, t-shirts, amazing people doing you know, i guess they were doing really good work yeah and what age did you do? I was uh. I was 15 when i was in doing the side, jobs and then i became 16. When i went to someone called neville daniel who were amazing warren at yeah time it was, it was buzzy, it was fun, beautiful, salons, big and glamorous. Ah, it was just. I skipped to work i would skip. I was so excited to be at work every day and - and i was given the opportunity to learn my the boss of that salon - a man called robert. He was amazing, he literally really mentored me and within six months i was already doing his clients. He would give me his class and, along with him and a couple of really close friends of mine uh of hairdressing but um. I i i have to thank everyone that gave me their time. Yes, and i think time is a precious thing when you, especially if you know what you want. People will have more respect yeah and it's it's really funny, because hairdressing is a job where you teach people to take your job. Okay, that's actually true. If you put it down, that's how you look into it. Wow train people to ultimately become you, and so, but i'm a great believer that um you have to give back okay and you should always give back uh and i um once we spoke about your friend rodney that was late later on in my career um. You know i opened up my own salon and i had that during the 80s and and most of the early 90s and then we decided that you know it was too much i you know my career was taking off yeah and i was very, very sad on And very hard - and i was when i was young as well. I opened up the salon in the west end at the age of 21. wow yeah. So, two years ago, yeah - i had really you know. There'S too much going on yeah and um, i decided to come to bengal galvin and i've been here since 93. So it's new you're, a big part of san diego, i feel like your name, is on the door. Well literally, we had - and you know that's what he his thing is so myself and my own business partner gerald who we had our own summer. We came here. We were all about styling, so we took over the you know. We really got you know uh, you know there was never a conflict between. You know, two tops stylists and it's worked um, but going back to joshua who's gaining his well. I was teamed up with daniel uh josh uh, along with brendan, and we have been educating the the test side of it and uh. Our rate is high. We always get people to to yeah get to the level and pass so they don't pass the first time we'll make sure they pass the second time we you know we really take them on the rolling. So you put everything in to make sure yeah and to give to sum up joshua when he was on his deathbed. He was dying. He had days to live, he called for me and brendan he wasn't seeing much of his family. He just seemed really close people, but he called us and uh a bit of his background. He was uh manager, he was respected throughout the harvesting industry uh and he called us in and the nurse said. Listen, you probably get five minutes he's not good. Well, i think we're there four hours, yeah he'd come in without consciousness, but the last thing he said to me is: please guys, keep what we're doing going and look after the kids, it's something we were doing anyway. Yeah. It was just a matter of the thought of someone telling you as they're about. I think you died a few days later. That'S what he was trying to say. I mean that's what he that shows what he's been like in my and that's how we've been you know we very much. We did that for so many years together and the fact that he said it was like a reminder to us. Yeah we've got to keep doing this and i will do this as well until i cannot do it anymore, you help people, you train people right. Absolutely, it's all about giving back. I'M a big advocate in that um. You have to give back. You have to make sure they get the best training and if i was advising any parent out there, that's got a child also entering our industry. The first thing i would ask um the employer is: what is your training? What is your training schedule? Okay, what are you going to do for my kid? What are you going to give her in training guys, so you need to know that you're getting you have to know that they have something in place, whether it's after work teaching, whether it's a day teaching once a week, whether it's sending them to a college. To get their mbq, whether it's whatever it is, you need to know it cannot just be that they go there and they just shampoo and sweep up their head yeah. That'S right! To be honest, that's something that we naturally have to do thinking about it, though you know bringing someone in and trying to sweep the floors for training to become a hairdresser. That'S quite sweet, the floors you have to do. I mean you, you probably do you yeah, but, like my dad told me when i was very young, i remember i was cleaning you clean that toilet the best you can clean it while i'm not cleaning that toilet and the other eye watch for everybody else. Watch and learn: yeah, don't just release it and always keep an eye on. What'S going on around you yeah and i've always used that um theory that doesn't matter what you do you have to you know: yeah learn your trait whatever it is, and i think this is the same for anything. Yes, any industry, age. Okay, you said that was quite overwhelming for a 21 year old. Do you regret that decision, or did it really take where you want? No, no. I don't regret it because my first during those times i was traveling with you know, i was working with the stockade and watermelon yeah, so i you know i was at the beginning of the careers of kylie jason and many other people. I'Ve seen your pictures. They actually went on to a website, so all the people you've worked with and that vintage style of photograph as well, and it was so inspired by it yeah. Oh, my goodness, it was just amazing times and now everyone's looking everybody's looking at the 80s, like probably, was looking at the 60s and things like that wow, you know yeah, but it's really weird because everyone's looking at my work in the 80s and like oh that's, So cool and you think of people are talking about stuff and you just think oh wow yeah i mean when i was younger. Did you know that you've reached this level of success because anyone could be a hairdresser but to be a hairdresser making such an impact? I'Ve actually looked at my clients and some of the people i work with. I don't even actually remember working with them, but we never documented anything. We would never have taken a photo. Some of the subjects like from um old, um chinese things like that, where you know we don't always have to test the lights, and things like that. Now you can see with the pictures. We'Ve got that brilliant yeah we have. We have oh, i'm very jealous. You can document your life wherever you go um you have some of the most famous people in the world. That'S in you can have a selfie with you and not because they want to be with them yeah, but it's fantastic. I would love to have photos of the 80s and 90s and even early 2000. The mobile phone camera is not that old. No, it's not at all actually well. Do you think there's so much work that you've done that you just wish you could see? Oh, my god i mean i, you know yeah traveling around the world. Backstage that show every sh i mean i i think in those days every any show. Every show that was any performer would be on. Yeah variety shows backstage. It was amazing, but all the memories are in your head, yeah. You know and that's the sad thing, because i would love to see it yeah. All these. You know old fashioned, so there's a lot of people today, everything's documented at least you get to share it in a story. Yeah yeah i mean it's um. This job is amazing. You know i've been in places where you just look around the ground. You know um. So i'm very thankful very blessed that you know that my path - yeah yeah um. I really respect that. You have so much admiration for influential people celebrities, but you also care for the people who are just normal mums sisters. They come into the salon. I'Ve seen you know, i've been setting up today and the time i'm making last time in salon, you're just always kind to people putting your arm around and let them know they're okay, see if they need anything. To be honest with you, um everybody's everyone's yeah. I very rarely in fact, probably three times in my whole career have used the primary. I believe everyone should sit outside and yeah and when you do have a major, celebrity yeah and then and you introduce them to your client and they're just chatting you realize. So it's not that the person you know who's sitting with you in front of you doesn't have any skill or talent the normal day-to-day person. It just means that they're just not shown for it immediately. If that's it, some people haven't, you know they have the same and some don't yeah. Who would you choose yeah, and i i'm is that my fellow colleagues would tell you that literally it doesn't matter who's in my chair. They get the same treatment honestly for me. It'S all about having fun um, not being like you know my my head up, my backside about it. It'S it really has to be. The rule is everyone's saying, yeah and everyone's treated, and i feel people with you know a big name for themselves as well. I feel that they'll really connect with you on that level, because you treat them like more exactly normal that you don't you know what what's the word for it. You don't find over there. You don't think. Oh, my god, you're just you're on that level too. You know everyone's on that level, but you know how to deal with it. I'Ve tried to be a good person and help people out um, but i don't accept the snootiness from anybody and you have people with money that think that they could look. I don't stand or very rich and successful. Ask my assistants, the reaction they'll get okay, they will get. I really like that they will get put in their place. I cannot stand yeah and it wasn't long ago that the lady was so rude to everybody upstairs, and i was getting this information through yeah. It was kind of structuring downstairs not to reassure everyone, and people were crying upstairs. My assistant, let me tell you she must have apologized to my assistant easily. Oh my god, yeah i mean you've got daughters as well, so you understand what it means to protect the younger ones, especially yeah. No there's no need for it. There'S no need to be rude, you can be upset yeah, you can. You can tell somebody yes and then you know bust. The gutter make sure you're happy with your knee. That'S absolutely fine, but if you're just rude because you're just ruined come to me, you're going to be scared. Now because that's the whole in this situation, you know, i suppose you pick up the energy on different clients that might be anxious and might be nervous and might not know that. Yes, of course, and when i say people wrote this whatever there's just no excuse, you know you want said something to me as well. When you meet people today, you want to make sure that in 10 years 20 years down the line, you made an impact on that person that people wouldn't even wouldn't speak to them yeah, and i would i actually got better with them and then years later you Know top editors of magazines at the top journalists, um younger people, watching this you know in any industry. They need advice right now, struggling post-pandemic. How do they rebuild themselves or build themselves? There'S a lot of people that don't have confidence? Okay, and what is really important is to trust someone, okay and they they will especially hair destiny, will always be taken under someone's wing, and you make sure that you find the right person thinking of the arrangement and eventually they will help. You bring your confidence out, but it's it's very important that um always remember who you are always remember what your goal is to have a goal. Don'T ever sit doing nothing, there's always something to do, especially in small increments yeah. If you see someone go and help them go, you know that they're, starting from the very beginning with nothing yeah yeah. I would rather someone's like do not know wrong and then what you did you break it down, so you would understand and give them confidence it's. It'S really important that it it's different to school and i always find that when people leave school and they come into this and they're like put their eyes in their lives yeah and that's because at school you sort of you know part of the factory really yeah. But when you come to work, it's really important that don't waste any time yeah. If you have a learning night, make sure you go to it. If you have um, if you you're feeling a bit rubbish, yeah go to work yeah. Do you know what i'm gon na openly admit something i also in school, didn't really enjoy it 100. I was always leaning towards the creative and at the time i think, a few years ago. I thought no, i hate it. I learned nothing from it, but today i've only realized that certain things people tried to push on these teachers would be really valuable. You may not have your true friends there, but maybe put your head down a little more and focus on your future and what you could be. I remember being at olympia on stage with loads of long hours to i stopped doing my haircut to look down the line. Was this guy sounding amazing yeah, but he had words. I'Ve never heard of. I think what is he doing to this girl yeah and that's when it hit me many years later, i didn't even then many years later, actually not reading and not doing as well. At school, yeah probably hindered me yeah in uh in television yeah, but i think it does hinder you not being able to speak yeah as well. Yes, it does um, because i've had to really learn from harsh experiences. To be honest, how do you speak clearly in things? Yes, there's, obviously one the later on in life. I actually um realized that my lack of enthusiasm and reading and english and things like that and studying writing and things like that. I mean i thought i'd. Do it all to be honest when i left school i thought i don't need school like. I don't need these people, but i think when you're in a funny place, you're adamant that you just don't need to listen. But if i had someone back then i mean i had my mum. You know my best friend. She taught me a lot, but if i had another person outside my mum saying listen, this is going to benefit you. I'D probably listen up and i'd be like all right. So that's the funny thing we never listened to. We don't know this in the future. One thing about hairdressing is amazing. I i am now doing kids of the kids of my life, his daughter, yeah or his son. You know her hair at the age. I met jason wow, so he's like a true accomplishment. Well, i don't know if it is for you, but for me, when i saw was that i was born, you've worked with the osborne said. I just i like their personality, so much they're, just they're, just lovely. You know you become part of their family and you know i mean i've got that impression from everything they've done. Yeah they've learned from things they've evolved, they've grown their yeah they're, so close and very loyal, they're kind yeah. I saw a video of them back in the day or saturn on the dining table a few days ago and the amount of giggles and yeah it was like seriousness and everything, but it just worked. It was magical so much so that i i thought that i thought my jaw was gon na happen. There was too much, i wasn't getting more, no more. I couldn't take it. It was so funny geniusly. I think i always wondered you know. Is that what it's? Like and he says that the most basic things, but the way he says it, he cheers you up so much honestly, he's yeah he's very, very it's amazing, not funny in a way that you know he doesn't know he. What would you say to empower people right now? You know any clients watching any people watching what would you say to them, but obviously we've been through hell with this pandemic and it's made people argue it's made. People separated. I i think the thing is for me now. I would tell people to to literally have the strength and have the belief to to follow their dreams uh and if they have a dream that literally finds the right place to help you get to your to your way. Wherever you want to go. Okay, it's really important career-wise to find the right place to give you that style and it's not always going to be comfortable. Is it nothing is easy, okay, otherwise everyone will be successful. No, nothing is the answer, and even when you get to the level that you want to be at, if you want to stay there, you have to make sure that you give back and more imagine if young leader knew who's going to receive an mba. Well, the funny thing about the mba and i had a lot of stickers, yeah and actually it might be a good time for me to talk about it because um when i got it, i i didn't know yeah the press went nuts and they use this cronyism. Yeah that david cameron had given me yeah now at that time, yeah wow, prime minister yeah an mba right, but it got to the point where i am absolutely getting killed over getting an mba by the press, yeah and cronyism wow. It was only until then that actually one of the people that gave me the nba is a man called david house. He was one of the people and uh. He gave me a heads up and said: listen, you know the wink basically saying i i i wrote a letter um, the two ladies. That actually did. It are clients of friendly but they've. Obviously, um gone to people that i i work very closely with and they've um. It was only then that, and at the time also kept saying to the people at down the street yeah. So it's baby right now, then it got to the point where i found out all the people that it was and i've actually got the letters from them that i actually went through the system, which is you know the system? Is it's a process, so i went through a process, it's now beginning to annoy me and knowing me so much thinking when it's like you know, oh and the hair doesn't work for doing a party. It'S like, oh, is that chinese services that everyone in the hairdresser industry looks up to you, maybe wow um. Do you know when i was looking at uh the story of mv? I didn't look into it too much because i saw first of all. I just saw the mb and i thought wow that in itself is an achievement and then i saw something about david cameron and i thought yeah because yeah i would be i'll, be happy to. If that's the case, i'm getting slaughtered yeah or i was guessing because now i'm actually fighting back okay and saying to people. Okay, well i'll bring the letters, people that did it and they go oh okay, yeah, so it wasn't for a party. No, i mean that's the irony, it makes people it makes people again well. Why do you get it for changing this party? Well, it. My message has always been: teach teach, teach, teach, teach education, help me out, get hairdressers, get rid of the cowboy hairdressers get rid of you know. It'S always been that, and obviously people that have written in me have done lots of charity and all this stuff. So yeah, do you know what it shows you that, even while you reach success, there's always going to be yeah, it is upsetting. Is it like if you've got someone out there and you think that they deserve yeah? The only way someone is going to get yeah is by you, yeah, or someone nominating them yeah to boost a bit of the people and let them know how well they're doing i nomination from the queen. I the award system is for people that are in any business, so why not yeah nominate it's? I think the price picking up on apartment is just silly like we already. I mean. I already know that it's for your talent, for who you are for the people that you may feel good, so more people will know that i mean people watching this now, it's just something that i i honestly. I think that i i mentioned it was because you know it's lovely, that people see what you do and they've gone out of their way to write a letter, and they do something. That'S i'm so humbled by that. But we do live in that world that, sadly there's so much negativity yeah and we don't um help people. We don't look out for people we just let people fade away and the problem is is that there have been so many people that are coming to hairdressing. That would have been amazing, but they didn't get the guidance they didn't get the yeah. They didn't get that help from anybody, so they in up and down the country around the world. They just didn't get uh. You know what was there more in that way, yeah that whole thing mentoring, you get to make sure we support that work. It'S important that, whatever you do, whatever business you're in you help mentors you don't just think you know like give them that give them give them help, and then it's really important that that's my message: do you find that being um? You know not selfish in the industry that actually connects you to more people. You know, there's a lot of people who seem to make it pretty big, but they're, quite self-absorbed, but then sooner or later they have this big breakthrough. Yeah. The thing is is that i think that when you've been mentored yourself, when someone wasn't selfish, that you realized well, someone is not selfish to me. They really looks after me, so i should look after others, it's like, because if i wasn't looked after, i probably would have yeah, but i was looked after. I was really mentally well and i and i make sure that you follow that one. It never hindered those people's uh careers, they all done really well, they were amazing hairdressers, and so it didn't hinder them, helping others and that's the point, if you're good, you're good, if you're good at what you do you will it doesn't matter that you yeah, i Mean think of how many people have talent and not the right? Either they don't have the people around them, so their talent generally just goes, but it's very important for celebrities. I was uh and i worked with many celebrities when they were starting out and i actually say make sure you always surround yourself with good people, people you trust people yeah. Oh my god. It'S really important that you surround yourself with the right people and not the people that literally lead you the wrong way. If you're an alcoholic and someone that's working to take you to the pub yeah, you can't exactly be careful. If you're a drug user they're bringing you drugs, you can't really care about it. Yeah all these things yeah. If you're learning, hairdressing and you've got someone, that's making you mess around attraction from or not turn out for work, they can't be good for you. I mean it's important to know this at a young age as well, because when you do fall into that trauma and you become vulnerable, it's then really hard to understand. Who has meant for you that person who's giving you drugs or has given you drink? You don't know at the time if you're vulnerable, you may be thinking oh, this is this is exactly what i need they're there for me, so i think it's good. We have interviews like this to teach the younger audience to avoid that and to actually don't make the same mistakes that other people did and try and live a happier. Life celebrity yeah just doing what they want right. Yeah, of course, don't try and be yeah or you're, not just be the job you're, the hairdresser yeah you're, not the celebrity hair person you're the hairdresser, okay, you're, the hairdresser of celery disease, but you're, not just illegal yeah, so you you're right you drink. Naturally, yeah do the job. Okay. Well. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for joining daniel galvin us lino's instagram, since he shares funny tik, tok videos that'll make you laugh, and i will also see you in my next video. If you enjoyed it today, give it a thumbs up, and i shall see you very soon - bye for now guys