Let'S Talk Hair Loss, Wearing Wigs To Work, In The Bedroom & More! Wigs Are The Fountain Of You

Hi everybody. We have got a really exciting chat for you today, because I'm speaking with Beth's best hair, the most beautiful, lovely Beth. How are you Beth? I'M wonderful, I'm so happy to be here, hi everyone, it's so exciting to speak to you. I'Ve been watching your videos for so long, and I know that you have a lot of Paula Young, wigs that you've been showing recently and I've really been enjoying them. What are you wearing today today? I'M excited to tell you that I'm actually wearing aesthetica. This one is Verona and the color is 1226 rt4 and it's lovely um. I bought it from Tia Maria and I do have a discount code for 30 off for your first purchase. So I'll be sure to give that to you, so you can link it in the description. That'S wonderful! I'M wearing the ocean! Actually, yes, this! This brand is so useful because I have got a medium brown hair shade and, as you can see it just Blends in with whatever really so you're also wearing aesthetic love. Is it Ellen Villa? I think oh okay, I think, but then I might be wrong because I've got so many up there. Oh, I should have prepared, but it was. It was so sweet of you to agree to speak to me and it was very sweet of you also to send me some pictures of of the journey that you've been on that started off with noticing hair loss and that's something that I'm really Keen to explore. Because I know that the majority of women who are wearing these - these wigs - I call them Styles yeah um. They they come to these pieces because they they're confronting hair loss in their life and as women. That'S quite a difficult thing to do. What'S your experience of that, how did your hair loss start yeah? It is super difficult mine started with thinning hair in my mid-20s and I remember being pregnant with our second child. We were building a house and the new neighbor came across the street and we were outside in the sunlight, and I felt so intimidated already at that time that you could see through right to my scalp and I just always felt very inferior about it. And I came from big hair so um I didn't know what to do and I never even thought about a wig and when I got in my 40s I discovered the hair fibers and I had started wearing extensions. So my hair loss was right at the top, which I later found out was androgenic alopecia and um. I started searching on YouTube. What on Earth can I do so when I was 50? I bought my first topper, which was John renault's beautiful, but it really had difficulty getting it to blend and I think Toppers have come a long way since then you can now buy your lace front Toppers at the time. It wasn't a lace front. You had to blend your own hair, and so finally, when um I turned 51, I bought my first wig and that was Paula. Young'S Ashley and I haven't looked back so what year was it when, when you're, when you're in in those 20s? What year was it that that you noticed your thinning hair um? It was in the late 90s, 90s yeah and - and I wasn't even aware of well - I was gon na say I wasn't even aware of wigs myself. We we're both very similar age and my uh older. I had an older relative who led rather a glamorous lifestyle. She um had a wig, but I remember when she wore her wig. All I could see was a nest of permatease. Yes put it on towards the front um, and I remember thinking actually. This is very embarrassing because I can tell it's a wig and it's not particularly attractive right, so you have never heard of wigs. But how did you come to hear of wigs? Well, I had heard of wigs in the same way as you. I would see the older some older, ladies at church when I was growing up and it looked like they had a bird's nest on their head and it was obvious - and so I and maybe aware of the generation where there was like a negative, a negativity attached To wigs, which I honestly don't know why now that I wear them, I'm like it's beautiful, it's like wearing jewelry. So when um I started looking on YouTube after I found out, I had alopecia and I was almost 50 and at that point um I guess we weren't on lockdown. Yet that was about 2019 and um. I thought what on Earth can I do, and so I did see wig videos, but I wasn't ready to take the leap yet so um I just kept watching videos, so I felt really confident when I did finally 2020 September of 2020, I bought my first wig And I felt really confident that I knew okay, I have to play with it. I have to do this. I have to make it my own I'd watched tons of videos, yeah and so um, so I felt very confident so when my first week came, I rushed home from work because I had gotten the tracking and I put it on, I played with it and I Started snapping pictures which I had never done, um having thin hair and being plus-sized. Nobody was ever going to take my picture so so this is a leap for me to to put myself out there, but I sent it to my sisters and I sent pictures to my oldest daughter. My youngest daughter was here. My husband was here, and they said it looked beautiful. It looks like your hair and well. Of course. Let me interrupt you and let's go back in time a little bit, because you look stunning. Thank you. It'S I can tell that you're really enjoying wearing that hair and all the confidence that it's giving you. But let's let's go back. Did you ever get a diagnosis of any kind of alopecia? Did you ever seek treatment for your hair loss? I did not see treatment via injections or anything like that. What I I tried, the topical creams, the like nioxin shampoos conditioners, the biotin vitamins hair skin nails, but no, I never did anything drastic. I looked into like Hair Club for women and things like that, and it all seems really drastic to me and I was not ready to take that, not to mention the expense and and reading about it. You have to continue to do it because what little hairs are going to grow aren't going to grow once you stop those treatments. Yes, so I feel like once I finally accepted that this was my fate yeah and I was going to put on a wig and I was going to make the best of it. That'S that's when it really opened the doors for me and I I felt like once I put the wig on and I got the compliments I was like wow. I feel like myself again. Yes, well, I remember attending uh the hair clinic in London and they they actually treated the scalp, which is very sensible to do because yeah, a lot of the problem is in the scalp and the hair. Follicles right, you know part of the problem. Is there um and I was having to go once a month? I was having to have this treatment. I was having to buy the special stuff that they were massaging my scalp with, and I did notice that my scalp was less tense and and less irritate irritated. But I couldn't keep going all the way up to London and spending that money right. When I tried to take matters into my own hands, I remember buying a couple of lotions and Potions alternative remedies. I suppose you could call it which always used to make this oily film, yes over my hair and make my hair look even thinner than it was. You know when your wet wet the hair or put oil on the hair. It makes your scalp even more obvious right and I spent a lot of time - and this is quite heartbreaking - really it was in my 20s and 30s and 40s when I should have just been footloose and fancy free spending a lot of time. Thinking about. What'S the best color to dye my hair, where whereabouts in the room am I going to sit, my biggest worry was to have to sit under a bright light, a light. Yes, there was no way to go most people kind of didn't, really notice, but I do remember on one or two occasions when I was dealing talking to somebody and their eyes kept flitting up and penetrating you know yeah. You just have that feeling of just such discomfort and wanting to get away, but you put a brave face on it right right. It'S told I totally understand I feel like we have sort of that same Journey, because mine was 20s 30s 40s. You feel so intimidated and I have a similar story and that, five years ago my youngest sister got married and I was in the wedding, my older sister was in the wedding. You know our mom. Well, everybody was going to get their hair done. Oh, I said no, I can do my own hair, it's fine, you guys go, have fun without me and you know I just like it was awful yeah. So I was in the hotel room by myself and and now I'm like getting all teary-eyed, but you know yeah. That was the worst and I made what I had looked good, but it was not fun. No, and I just knew. I knew that I'm like I have to do something so anyways yeah and I'm so very excited. I have nice makeup, I'm sending you a virtual hug. You know, I know how you must have felt, and I think everybody listening understands the symbol, the symbolism of hair on a woman, it's her crowning Glory, there's so many things in in our culture, uh that that tell us that beautiful hair is an extension of a Woman'S femininity, her youth, her beauty, her fertility, yeah, yeah, and also the soft lines of the hair, actually frame your face, and they give meaning to your Expressions. You know, especially as a younger woman. You know if you, if you want to do a little bit of dressing up a little bit of flirting, should you be lucky enough to do so? Um, that's all, doesn't work, it doesn't work when you don't have the hair. You you sent me a photograph of when you were losing your hair, I'm going to put those photographs up and thank you for your vulnerability in doing that. Um and also you send me a photo in all of your glory. You you are wearing a blue top with this. What looks to me like a Widow's Peak? Even yes, yeah with - and you know you know, when women they they put up up their hair in a sort of a buffer, and then they have this Mane of hair. At the back, that's what the photograph looks like I'll put it up now, yeah and and to lose hair at the front. There'S nowhere to go with that. Oh fibers, the fibers show at the front right - and I remember even asking my stylist in like my 20s and early 30s. What what can I do it's right here, it's right here and and, like you said in that photo I mean I had all. That was all my hair. It was bad, it came. I actually had quite a low forehead because my hair came down so far. What a problem to have so yeah. It definitely was really a challenge and I think, had I known more about Toppers. I could have definitely done Toppers in my 20s and 30s and even into 40s, but because I didn't really know about it and it hadn't come that far. I feel like alternative hair has come a long way. So let's talk about the taboo of hair wearing and when we're on our hair wearing Journey, we all must climb that hill of trying to comprehend that taboo is all about, and how does it affect us? So did you ever have any feelings of resisting wearing hair because it was embarrassing once I before I started yes, yes after I started no, because I mean I still had an occasional thought of you know gosh. I wish that I could just be my own hair, but then it's once you get into it. It'S really fun to put on this beautiful hair and know that you look beautiful and, like you said, I mean I had men, I'm happily married for 30 years right, but I had Men start to notice me, which was very odd because, like I said as a Plus-Sized woman, now I'm in my early 50s, you don't expect I my doors were never held for me um, but all of a sudden doors would be held. Oh, how are you today just little things like that, and it was shocking to me and takes you by surprise? Doesn'T it totally by surprise? You know I'm not 16 anymore, so I wasn't expecting that, but it definitely is the hair. I do people treat you differently when you have beautiful hair, they do and you have random. I'Ve had random people. Tell me your hair is so gorgeous your colors are so beautiful and when it's appropriate I will tell them, but sometimes you're, in a situation where it's a whole public area, and you can't say, oh by the way, I'm wearing a wig or maybe you can. But I don't choose to do that. Well, you sent me another photograph which I'll show of your very first wig was that you was actually the first piece that you ever put on your head, or did you go for a Topper? First, I went for the topper. First, which one it was, it was a John Renault topper. It was like a tap wave, I think the 12 inch top wave, and so what I would do is I would put the topper on and then I would take some of the topper hair to cover my bald spot and then I would put a headband on Right it it kind of worked, but I did not know yes, I didn't feel confident. I could never wear it to work. I wore it out a couple times, but I could never wear it to work. So I'm curious to know what what was it that that I mean what was your thought process when you went from resisting to committing to buying that hair? What was your thought process? Oh my God! Well, we had been in lockdown. Obviously I had been working from home for a couple of months and doing Zoom meetings, so I was wearing the topper, but I had also been looking at. Wigs well like wigs are very expensive, and so I started I thought. Well, maybe I could buy some like a Bobby boss or some from like you know the. What do you call the beauty supply store? Well, those are typically designed more for women of color, so I did. I did like got some and I was like. Oh, my gosh, like things, are costume wigs on me because, because the lace won't blend with my skin tone, what was I thinking? I think I did buy a Vivica Fox and I maybe wore that when I took my grandson trick-or-treating, because I couldn't get that to work so that I'm like okay, you're gon na have to step it up. And then I so I started searching and I found a couple reviews on Paula Young and they were on Ashley and I thought well, that's a cute style and I had kind of made up my mind that if I got a wig that it was going to Be similar to my color, but maybe a little bit shorter right but similar to my texture so that it would nobody would guess right. I was hoping nobody would know so um, so I had been wearing like hair extensions and the messy bun and I had topic on so nobody ever really saw my hair down yeah and if I have it down, I usually sort of did the side thing and Had a Cascade here - and it was extensions so when I went to work with Ashley and I gave myself the biggest pep talk, no I'm driving to work, I'm like you just go in there, you just with your head held high. I can't believe I even made it to work safely because I'm looking in the rear view mirror I'm like it's very frightening thing to do and I walked in and one of my friends was like, oh my God, your hair, it's so beautiful. What did you do and I'm like? Oh, I just thought it was time for new hair. I said, but I didn't say it was a wig. Well you, how did you feel when you were about to walk in petrified? Yes, petrified, but then I just was like you can do this own, the room you got this just go for it and you know I've been watching videos and they were like people don't notice. They do not notice, that's what they kept saying in those days. I do remember, and so um, but everybody noticed, but nobody noticed that it was a wig. They were I had to spin around in my cubicle and they they wanted to look at my new haircut from all angles. I mean I had people going like this and I was like and they're like God, your hair is so cute. Oh my God. I can't believe how different it looks. It'S so cute. I just love it and I thought, oh God, next they're gon na ask me where I got my hair cut and I wasn't really prepared for that. So I was like okay. Well, maybe they won't ask you and they didn't. They didn't ask me where I got my hair cut. Yes, like keep in mind it's September 2020. So a lot of things were still kind of shut down, um or by appointment, only sort of things. So it worked and nobody no nobody knew and man. Oh man did my confidence grow by leaps and bones. It was crazy, so definitely worth it. I was like. Why did I wait so long why I should have been doing it yeah, but, but certainly that first piece you get it is the biggest I mean if, if I, if I could say I I'll see if I can find this little video, this is of me Receiving Mila and it was in secret - I didn't tell anyone. I didn't tell my husband, I didn't tell my children, I didn't tell anybody but like you, I had obsessively been looking at wig reviews and and you're sort of doing this squinting at the screen. The lace front and people would be going like this. Look, it's like it's growing out of your head and I think but but it does look like it's growing out of their head. How are they doing that? How does that lace front disappear? So I decided to order Mila by John Renault and I'm sitting in front of the mirror, and I'm just I have I hadn't seen hair on my head in those places since my teens just running my fingers through it and then came the time when I had To tell Steve that I had bought this thing and I wanted to start wearing it and of course you have to prepare the ground before you actually go in. You know, and I said to him, there's something there's something that I really want to tell you um and he actually thought that I was about to tell him. I was having an affair, yes, because I'd made such a huge thing out of it. So how did you introduce an affair with my hair, hopefully totally so how did you introduce it to your other half? So mine was very similar to yours. I didn't tell my husband that I had ordered a wig and but my daughter's, my daughters knew - and I had kind of been telling my sisters, you know I'm I feel bald and although I wasn't, but it was kind of like the Crypt Keeper hair right. But I kind of hit my hair loss for my husband because we work different shifts, and so it would take me. It was to the point where it was taking me almost two hours to get my hair presentable in the morning and um gosh. It was just it just got to be a real struggle with all the topic and it was a mess, and so he had always seen me with extensions and topic, and I colored my hair, because my bio hair was coming in white gray um. It was so. I just said I finally just said you know my hair kind of like you, I'm like it's really been a struggle for me and I'm gon na get a wig and he's like well. Why don't you just go to like one of those Hair Clubs, kind of thing and I'm like honey? You don't understand, I'm like it doesn't work, I'm like it costs, tons and tons of money and the results that you get are not going to be. What you're expecting, and so, when I put on Ashley and then I walked out there and he was like well, yes, it looks great, but you got ta. Give me a minute because now you look like your sisters and so boy like well nobody's gon na know and my daughter's, like nobody's gon na know that looks like you that looks like your hair. You know it was rooted and it was the same color, and so it took him a little bit he's like he even actually said. Well, if it was me, I wouldn't wear a wig, he said, and I said, but it's not you it's me, and this is how I feel and he's always been very supportive supportive. I mean. Obviously, we've been married for 30 years, so you see we're not just together to be together, we're together because we love each other. We support each other and so he's and he said, and I um let me back it up. So I said, all I ask is for your support and he said you have my support. Yes and then it took up a while and then we were going to an event one day and I had my hair all whatever wig I had on, and he said you know you look so beautiful and he's like you know. Your hair looks better than everybody else's nice compliment exactly so, but you had that first, first wig: how long did you stay with with one wig, because you know there Comes A Time. Doesn'T they when, when the penny starts to drop and you're thinking? My goodness I could have long red hair. I could have a short black Bob. How did you proceed with your love affair, so I loved Ashley, so I bought it in uh, butter, toast rooted and honey rooted, and I had two of each um because, as you and I have talked before, wigs, don't necessarily last forever - I mean they can, but That fresh out of the box and you're like oh, it's so lovely, it's so soft. You kind of want that feeling all the time and you you get spoiled. So I wore those a lot I mean and we're talking every day for 10 12 hours a day and I would flip flip-flop them and um so that I wouldn't wear them out as much, and I think I curled their. It was heat styleables. I think I curled one and left one straight and then I'm like well what if I bought like a curly one and I like you, then I started looking and then I bought more and then I would like try. I think I bought Deirdre and I wore Deirdre one day and oh, your hair looks so cute. I know you thought that it wasn't Ashley, you know, nobody knew they still didn't know, and so I just I kind of started doing that and then I moved on to a little bit longer and kind of found that sweet spot that I like, and I would Say um after Christmas that I had started in September at Christmas I wore Mason, which was longer and then after Christmas, the floodgates opened and I started buying more wigs and then that April um of 21. I started my YouTube channel because you were, you were buying a lot of wigs and you thought well look. I might as well share this with the world. Well, I started on the groups on Facebook, um, hair loss sisters and I was posting pictures of the different Paula Young, wigs and at that time that's what I was buying because that's what my budget could afford and then somebody messaged me and they said hey. You know: there's a poly Young Band group on Facebook. You should join that so I joined that and I started posting pictures and then I got a lot of comments on. How do you make it look so natural? Well then, I would post little video clips right and why don't you have a YouTube channel? Yes and that's when it started in it and the light bulb went off and I thought you know what I struggled for so long. If I can help just one person not have to go through that feeling not have to feel like, I felt at my sister's wedding. You know I wanted. I wanted to do that, which was scary. Even my daughter was like Mom. You know you put yourself out there, you might get a lot of negative comments um, but I thought you know what I'm just gon na I'm just gon na try it, and so I did and there you go, I'm still doing it. Yes, and - and so do you feel that now you favor the longer styles, I tend to like a little bit longer and I think, because it makes me feel younger. I like, like your length that you're wearing um and about that length or a little bit longer. I love yeah, you feminine, you feel pretty, I'm still at the point in my life, where I don't. I don't want to to age myself, I'm still trying to catch that Fountain of Youth right well, and I think that there is those years, those years before you actually become an old lady. Those years before that time, when you can wear those longer Styles and they they still make you look younger, I'm I'm sure that in the future I'm going to have to review the colors that I wear, I'm gon na have to maybe get a little bit of The Grays and the salt and peppers and the the Pala paler Browns right yeah, but for the time being, I'm gon na make hay while the sun shines. You know that saying. Yes, yes, absolutely so you became you became a YouTuber. Now you were the one reviewing the wigs full circle. Yes, yes, why? Why do you find that it's important for you to review those wigs? Why do you do it for for the reasons that I was searching YouTube myself, because I want to help other people and other women who are suffering because I feel like we don't have to accept Our Fate. We don't have to have thinning hair. We don't have to walk around feeling, intimidated or bad about ourselves. I think everybody has the right to feel confident to feel beautiful and if my videos can show them how to do that. That'S wonderful! That'S icing! On the cake! That'S what I want to do and um I've been. I was very private about my wig wearing, like I said I didn't tell my co-workers initially and then I started over time telling my closers closer friends, but it's it's gone on for quite some time. As a matter of fact, I have a little funny story and that I work um in parks and recreation, but I also in 2020, was doing sort of a Keto carnivore type diet and I started a YouTube channel call Beth's keto kitchen and some of the guys In the park, shop started had subscribed. Well, we had a big Christmas party and I was wearing hair, but hadn't come out of the closet. Yet out of the hair closets and the art director was like. Oh, you cut your hair and it's curly. It looks so cute and I'm just like. Oh thank you, but it was a big Christmas party, so I couldn't really say anything so we're sitting at a round table and there's like 40 or 50 people. So there's other tables and my boss, the supervisor, the parks and rec director was like Hey everybody. Do you know that Beth is famous? She has a YouTube channel and I was like, oh God, no, I'm like this is when it happens. You should have just been honest from the start. I think you know all these things going through my head and he goes yeah. He goes. I was scrolling last night with my daughters and he goes best keto kitchen, yes, and it's petrifying. That feeling and a couple of the other guys were like oh yeah, we know we subscribe, we love her recipes gosh and you just must have just kept your you know on under your hat, for a little bit longer longer a little bit longer. That'S right! I get messages from ladies who watch my channel that are still telling me that they have bought their wig but they're too frightened to go out and wear it, and you know I don't think they realize how that makes me feel, and they don't probably realize how I really know how they feel, because, when you've been through something like that, it's not something you forget. You always know that this isn't your real hair and that actually, the truth is, is that you're balding, which is a horrible? You know, even if I'm watching a a film or somebody says a joke or something, and has that word in it, something inside me cringes. You know because it is a pretense, it's not real and I go out and I often see women who were who are now where I was and they're walking around the supermarket and their hair they've got very diffuse hair loss all over. I can see straight through their hair yeah he's straight to their scalp, and I can see the look in their eyes that they're trying to hide it is that feeling of being um you're, not comfortable in your skin right. It'S that feeling. It really shows on your face in a way when that part is covered, and you have the semblance of hair. You don't mind looking down in front of somebody anymore right right, you don't have to sit in the right lighting or or which takes me on to the next point dating and intimacy, whereas as women. What are your thoughts on that? Have you any experience of it? Well, as far as dating, not really because I'm married, but I feel like if in today's society I have daughters who are in their 20s and wig wearing, is pretty normal to them, because they it's a fashion statement, yeah and um. So I don't I feel like I, maybe you and I are from that era when there was this negative connectivity or or just connotation attached to wig wearing and it shouldn't be that way right, it's it's fun. It'S Beauty, it's just extending our Beauty and so just like our earrings or our clothes, so I think it may be a little bit different for a younger generation because I think they are more open to it. Um. If I were to be dating, I you know somebody who I just met. Let'S say you were doing an online dating and I just met them. I probably wouldn't say anything, but if I saw that this was going to maybe be a relationship, I think I would get to that point where if I knew like, maybe I don't know third date, you know this is gon na go somewhere. Then I would say: oh you know, by the way in case you hadn't noticed, I do wear alternative hair because I have alopecia and I also love just the style of ways of being able to change it up, and I think it's super fun and it adds A lot of spice to my life and hopefully some spice to your life too. So, yes, probably and - and I I know - we've spoken about this very, very briefly in preparation, but this was a week ago. I think we spoke yeah because I I was telling you that your Situation's slightly different, because you're not really in the bedroom undressing and taking your hair off at night with your husband lying bed watching you, okay, it's not a good situation, I'm in and - and it's Always quite sad, at the end of the day, I'm undressing. I really would like to just carry on looking the way. I'M looking you know and sort of just carry on with my hair, but then it comes the time it still makes my toes curl. You know. I can, I know what you're saying, because I do feel that way. My hair, I stopped coloring it and I think I sent you a picture of the how it looked all kind of white and gray and scraggly, but um. So I had stopped coloring it, but um it just it's terrible right, so I finally just got fed up and I buzz it now. My husband, I had always been saying I think I'm just gon na Buzz my hair off. No, don't do that! No, don't do that and I'm like you know, why do you want to hold on to this? I hated looking at myself in the mirror after I took my wig off yeah, so he was gone for the weekend and I just completely buzzed It Off, and I and I was so emotional and and sad about it. But I don't know why, because I hated what it looked like right. I think it was just like that final realization, that this is it. This is me, and this is what I have to do for the rest of my life, but you know what wigs are the Silver Lining. So it's okay but, like you said you have to take it off at night, so where I have the problem where my husband sees me in the morning so Casey's me in the morning and I'm getting my coffee and now I'm I have my hair buzzed and I have about an inch here of um, just white gray, and it looks hideous yeah, although my daughter she's so sweet she's like Mom, you can go out like that. People would just think you were artsy. She said yeah yeah, and so he sees me like that, and sometimes he'll just go like like rub my head. A little bit and, and just you know be he'll - be sweet about it, but he's like pretty for him. So, yes, and and in those times when you do have those Embraces or there's when you're close physically, I'm not trying to be crass, but you know you do yeah, it's close to somebody that you you've had such a long-term relationship with. How do you manage the the wig cap? What do you prefer any tips for us? Oh as far as like, what do I wear underneath? Well, what I mean is, is that do you ever get into a situation where, oh, you know he's hugging, you say or maybe he's touching the back of your neck or something and of course you know his his hand patches on the wig cap has that ever Happened to you um, so yeah I'll be like you know, don't yeah get off um, so I try. I tend to try to look pretty so keeping a marriage alive. I think you just had your video out um. Oh yeah I like to look attractive for my husband. He thinks I'm beautiful no matter. He thought it was beautiful with my Crypt Keeper, half bald head yeah so but you know a little something pretty a little teddy whatever and some long Gorgeous Hair. I have specific hair for that specific reason and they're longer may we know we, which is your favorite. In that respect, I tend to wear some of those longer um, like those the braided ones, from Paula Young, that I took out those or there's one um from The Wig Company um. I can't remember what what the name of that one is, but it's like long and luxurious and kind of wavy and sexy, and so I'll do that. So what I do when I still had bio hair underneath I would literally like bobby, pin to my wig grip. My hair to the wig grip to the wig like so I have bobby pins to hold it, so nothing was moving. I don't want anything moving during the really well very disconcerted so um. Now I wear I'll do just a little um hairspray. You know underneath my wig grip and then the wig on tends to be okay, if I feel it start to pull I'll just kind of be like. Oh just give me a second, you know yeah yeah yeah. I must say I prefer it if my hair isn't touched. I mean I just want hands on my on my head. You know yeah he's not usually touching my hair, it's other parts right well, yeah. These things have got to be thought about, because you know a woman going through her wig Journey doesn't immediately think about this part of the week Journey right. You know, but there are there are things to think about new situations that you're in a little while ago. I put out a video about how I felt when I had a house guest for example. Yes, yes, and I have had that and I have had times where I've been with no hair and my grandson's dad has walked in and I'm just like. This is me and then I'll like and then the one time - and this was probably last summer and then I quick ran in put a wig on and then he said, oh you don't have to put my wig on for me. I said - oh, I didn't put it on for you. I put it on for me blah blah blah. You know, but yeah, it's an awkward situation that you don't really think about. So if we have house guests - which we do frequently um just because my grandson is here - and so sometimes his dad will be here or my daughter will be here and she might have her boyfriend so I'll have to get up in the morning, come into my Bathroom and I'll actually put on hair, I'm pretty comfortable now in that I kind of will wear shorter ones around the house or wavy ones, um and save my longer ones for work. So I'll do that in the morning. So people are used to seeing me now in different air all the time, yeah yeah yeah and do some women say to you you're so lucky that you're able to do this and have all of this lovely different hair. Well, they haven't really said that, but I had um past fall. I was wearing Encore from the Jaclyn Smith collection in The Wildflower honey and the art director came in and she's like gosh, your hair looks so pretty she's like did you? Did you color it, and so I've been two years now and I said sue you know I wear wigs right. She goes what he said. I had no idea. She goes. I just thought you spent hours on your hair and I thought how does her hair look? Perfect every day, how incredible, how incredible um there is. One thing of course that we we should mention is that we we have recently had the loss of Raquel Welch. Oh, I know yeah, so such an icon and her hair, all of the hair, is beautiful. Oh, my God, I remember a year Well, a few years ago, maybe maybe two years ago she came on to an interview with a British interviewer. She looked a million dollars. She had a fabulous body, she was wearing a bodycon dress. You know really tight, oh goodness, her face was Flawless and her hair. She she always used to use when she wore her personal wigs. They were that kind of a ready, chestnutty color. Yes, that yeah definitely ready color. You know and she used to flick it away from her face. She looked glamorous. She looked youthful, she looked sophisticated. I was in in trance when I was watching her in that interview and what what an amazing thing for us that she chose to go into the wig industry. Oh my goodness totally and I know uh Paula Young carries Raquel Welch. Now I just was on the phone with them yesterday and we were talking about that and like well. There are a number of styles that I want so yeah, it's it's lovely. I just think these women and like Jaclyn Smith as well, and she was very good friends with Raquel Welch that they're doing this, because they want women to feel beautiful and they're trying to normalize it for all of us, and I think you might notice too, when Now, when I even turn on the news and even my daughter will say mom, do you think she has on a wig? Do you think she has a Topper, I'm like well she's like yes, definitely wearing a Topper? I can tell because we're, because we wear wigs so we're we know yeah, but the general person would not know I never looked before it never occurred to me. No, I just thought everybody had Gorgeous Hair. It'S been. It'S been the biggest pleasure talking to such a like-minded soul, who's been enjoying well and having the courage to wear hair so um, and I'm going to continue uh watching your brilliant videos and I love yours. I'Ve watched, I think I was watching you, maybe even before I bought my first wig if you had your channel for a while, there's an outing that you had where you and your husband went out for the day and you went to the park and yes, oh Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, and I just thought the I love those those little videos and your husband's just seems like a sweetheart he's very supportive and that's why I'm constantly for a joke, sending him links to wigs that I think, might suit him, because you know They have the woods for men as well, but he's not interested well and circling back to what you were saying how you know women have said to you. Well, I bought my wigs, but I haven't worn them out in public yet, and I want to encourage anyone. Who'S watching who's on the fence, just put it on and, as we say in the wig World, make it your own, don't be afraid to play around with it. You have to style them up a little bit. Even this aesthetica, you might have to put a little dry shampoo. It might seem a little bit shiny play around with it. Make it your own and baby steps are okay. Wear it around your house where, when you're out mowing your lawn, even I mean wear it to the post office and then how did that go? Okay, now, let's try a trip to the grocery store and how did that go? If you need to take those baby steps. Do that and I think that you will be surprised at if people are staring many times it's because they think your hair is beautiful and then a lot of times. They will tell you that your hair is beautiful, because that has happened to me just out in the grocery store. I was shopping at Aldi and I was wearing teardra and I had it in and up to this past summer and a lady came up to me, I did not know her. She said your hair is beautiful. I love how you did it. I love everything about it. I love the color, I love the curls. Did you style it yourself asking me a million questions. Well, of course there was a man in the aisle behind me and he just wouldn't move. So I should have said something, but I didn't because I didn't want to make a scene, but I was just like thank you. You know, but sometimes it's okay to say. Oh by the way, you know it's a wig, yeah and then they're always surprised. Nobody ever believes it so wear the hair and feel good about yourself. Yes, absolutely really really sensible words of advice, and I hope that those ladies do make that step today, go and put it out today, all right thanks so much Beth and um I'll speak to you soon. I'M sure thank you. It was so much fun. Take care! Bye