How To Cut A Layered Bob Haircut For Curly

Welcome everyone, droid scarpe, sikraft, hairdresser and co-founder of the hairbrained community today with my very special guest one of my best friends, Ricardo, Denis who is the global hair cutting director for a vida, quite a prestigious role. This is a beautiful model. Is it Ginny's beautiful model? Janeshia beauty should have beautifully textured hair and if you know, Ricardo's instagram he's put out some incredible photos of ginnis over the past couple of years, so you can kind of see how he craft some of those shapes he's already sectioned off and into the hair cut. So Ricardo tell us what you have planned for us. Yeah I mean you know. Jenice is a super interesting character, so I think I've always been sort of inspired by sort of her personalities he's a musician. I think she works in a tattoo parlor and she does piercings and she's constantly getting stopped in New York. Because of her look, you got all the good jobs. Yes, good she's got all that stuff and she was actually passed to me by a really great hairdresser named Karen Johnson, and I was really lucky enough to meet her and sort of get her in my chair and really start to work with her with her curls And her look and the cut is kind of like it's it's a simple cut, because it's not requiring a lot of sections and generally. The way I like to approach curls is a which I'm with a much more sort of emphasis on silhouette and profile and then trying to sort of break that silhouette, so it doesn't always become the sort of typical uniform sort of rounder shape. So I can see you already started kind of putting your guideline. Is it's going to be a graduate of technique just as more layers, I'm gon na combination yeah? It'S absolutely that combination, so I'm actually working with some graduation through the back right now. Only because one of the things I love about crows is different with straighter hair is the expansion that you can get through a profile. So I love the idea that, generally with like straight or and more static hair, you generally have this sort of like tipping point on where you can get that balance to be sort of right in the profile, and I find with curls you because there's no official Line that runs from the back. It'S all diffused you're able to sort of take the back up, much higher and sort of stretch out the profile sort of this way, which I think playing everyone's excited to see, get the cut started. I'Ve got some shout outs here. Our buddy Steve sapling is watching always a pleasure to have you here. We'Ve got a bar attack watching from Poland, hey guys. Let us know where you're watching from around the world we're in New York City. Today, broadcasting live from our home studio here, blowing studio in New York City I'll, be Mulcahy's watching great to have legendary I'll be joining us. That'S a love coming in from Red Hook: Brooklyn, hey, I live in Calgary is very close to Red Hook. Brooklyn Amy great to have you Sally, Rogerson and Wendy Pryor is watching so great to have you here, Wendy's excited just as this is that one of the best looks. You can't wait to see it so guys if you have technical questions Ricardo. Not only is he a creative hairdresser he's an educator, a true educator over 20 years of teaching and sharing technical educating. So this is a great time for questions. I know there's lots of questions about technical approaches on curly hair, so I'll be looking out for your questions, so just type them in and I'll share them with Ricardo okay. So this is a sort of a much more leaner approach to graduation, especially with curls. You know, I think, that the biggest fear that even I always have is, is generally to deal with like shrinkage in the curl factor. So you know just getting that out of the way having you know Jenice here I want to call her soul thunder because that's where Instagram but having Jenice here again, she is super open. She wears her curly as a lot of people do in New York. So again, this is a look that is, is mainly to bring out the texture and to sort of make it cool. It'S kind of why she gets stopped on the street, and so the approach again is to instead of starting at the bottom and sort of relying on a lot of the weight through the top to sort of anchor and wave that shape down and kind of trying To do the opposite, I kind of want expansion through the top. I want expansion through the sides and I want some shrinkage happening through the back area here, so I'm starting off with some graduation, but as I work towards the front, I'm now strength to transition into some layering, and this is a always an amazing spot. You know in the hairline, because this is essentially the bridge between the back and the front and this area right here because of the inconsistency in the air and the hairline really allows you to kind of like adjust and make up your technique in a way. So what I'm going to start to do now is actually kind of go from that sort of graduated angle. But now, as I start to get it towards this bottom, I'm gon na kind of start to depart from the existing outline that I have in order to start to create some softness here and allow the curl to sort of almost expand and sort of sit around. Her face there, so I know Ricardo, obviously very familiar with your cutting technique and we've worked together for many years and what I love is the way you kind of take classic or core concepts and kind of adapt them and evolve. Yeah, which is what's happening here. You'Re not like reinventing the wheel you're, just giving a little twist left or twist to the right well that well, that to me is, is what creativity is: it's always a sort of connecting point on to something that I've done before. In fact, you know I started off, I guess my creative kind of thought thinking brain pattern or whatever it is more in just music and it came from just being a really bad guitar player and mixing chords back and forth. And so when I started getting into hair - and I remember in those very first years - I didn't know how to make something up. So I just combined - and you know we - I got this class right now - that I've just launched it's called core creative and it it's really about the thought process of creativity. How you get started and kind of. What'S like you know, what's the whole mystery behind it, so it's it's. You know not something like a special gift that God gave to only a few hairdressers or people. You know it's really about. You know your thought process. You thinking about things taking screenshots. You know journaling writing things down and really a creative person is just someone who's connecting with ideas. You know and thinking about them. I think more. So you soak or creative sounds like a great class. If somebody's watching, I don't know, you got a lot of fans watching, sharing a lot of love and they want to take that class, how do they find out about it and what can they expect when they take the class? Well, it's a you know: it's a class as being author in our network and it's being taught by a series of pure professionals, have been certified to teach this class. You know we we have. This website called a Veda, it's wwq Pro of 8 abductor Pro and on that website. Basically, you cannot there's a whole range of things that you know. Artists and hairdressers can go and have a look at, but it does show you where the classes are happening as well as other classes as well. Ok, so what I'm doing now is you've started to sort of see me switch my approach, especially with my hand, position where I'm sort of working from palm to palm, which is just really giving me the greatest amount of control through the back part of the head And now, as I start to work in through the sides, I want to make sure that there's this layer that carries in through this area, through the parietal Ridge, as well as maintain some of the length that she's got through the bottom. So the approach again is to kind of carry that shorter guideline through the back in towards the front, but then manipulate the bottom sections as you over direct them back to connect them with your guide. I hope that makes sense a lot of a lot of jargon. They'Re gon na give some shout outs, our friends watching Jionni thanks for sharing the love me little mix of events great to have you with us, as always baby Mendoza says, looking gorgeous already question recorded when separating the top from the bottom. How do you know how high or how low I guess this is kind of like a horseshoe shape on the top, maybe a little bit point here in the crown. But how do you position? Does it affect the cut? Absolutely I, when I'm sectioning a haircut I try to look at the haircut like I would dress the body so to speak and so, depending on the outfit or the cut that you're putting on the purse since head, the parietal Ridge can act. A lot like the waist of the body and, depending on how top-heavy the section is so again like if I took the section and I just dropped it below the ridge. What you're, on immediately gon na find is that the top area is gon na sit, much heavier and have a little more like a static feel to it was when you start to come. You know in and around or even above what you're helping to do. Is you know, you're you're, allowing the foundation to come up higher, almost like you're, dragging your sort of pant upward and allowing this or a t-shirt of a shirt part to be much smaller, and so what happens? Is it tends to move a lot more? So when you're thinking about this section angle, you know one of the things that you can play with is it you know if you see like a curl pattern happening through the front part of someone's face, and you really like that and you're just possibly starting on Some disconnection or you wanted an easy disconnection for your guests. This is probably the easiest way to go is to sort of think about wait. I got a curl pattern to a little lower here, I'll section this area a little lower, bring this side up so that I'm putting more emphasis on that party. That'S a good way, I think, of approaching and thinking about the the ridge as a it's kind of like a pinpoint of where you would like the the top and how you like that movement to sit I'll answer that question. For you absolutely thank you. So you talked a little bit about tension when working on curly hair. Like this, some people prefer to work on dry hair with no tension whatsoever. It looks like you're working on damp hair. Can you tell us your thinking, so I I believe in tension. I think that you, I think you have to use the approach and you're just gon na fight the tension there. Thank you. You just have to use the approach that I think works for you. Ultimately, at the end of the day, it's you behind the chair with that guest. I think what makes it bright is generally what you're doing in that moment. But if we want to talk a little bit about like the stretch in consistency and curl pattern to me, part of the process of why we wet the hair down is really to provide more consistency to the now. This is my personal opinion. So don't start getting all up on all the hate comments coming at me, but I think that a curl needs to be approached like in all haircuts, both wet and dry. I think the drying process is an important process because you get to see you know. The final result, you kind of get to see, what's actually happening, but you know to put in that shape to know that it's gon na be consistent, that she can wear it different ways. It'S it's kind of sometimes images for sanity's sake. I I need to go through it wet. I need to stretch that hair out and I need to provide as much consistency in my technique as possible, so you can even see that you know this is not a freehand approach for me here, even though you know this is not going to be showing like Perfect levels of graduation, the whole thing is going to soften and diffuse. So you know again it's just again about providing a really consistent, strong technique. Beverly Scott is wondering about the sections: are they ply sections or the parallel vertical section, parallel their vertical and then, basically, as they start to approach the round of the head, they start to look and appear more diagonal as they work forward. Is that kind of where you change the cutting angle more Ackley, once we get to sort of right here, we now start to add more of that sort of weight through the bottom. I noticed you changed hand positions. You have a two through the top. It'S more. It'S more for control, you know, if you think about you, know the use of your hands as well as your elbows anytime. You know you're using them. Your your your body, naturally gravitates towards using what's gon na, be the most consistent and the easiest for your hand. So think about how your elbows and your shoulders inhibit certain certain amounts of lift. So you know we're working on top of our fingers were able to lift much higher and we're working palm to palm our elbows and our shoulders really help with dragging those sections down. So I love using that and more for you know, saving and retaining length through the top, like I did through the back so Ricardo. I know that you alluded earlier to the new core creative yeah class, and you mentioned that there's a team that you're training. You talked a little bit about about the team of people, you're training at so first off you know, one of the great opportunities out of beta is to become a teacher and we have a network of teachers both in cutting in color, it's spa and makeup and Styling and so it really sort of they're kind of like our army or our forest out there and making sure that our salons receive the best education possible. So part of my job is to sort of go out, teach classes test those classes, and you know certify other people to then teach those classes as well and they're they're people just like you and me out there. You know some of them are super experienced. Other people are in the beginning parts of the career. There are young stars, they're, hungry, they're, talented, no, having a lot of fun like we did. I mean that's one of the things that you know. I love about my tenure at Oviedo was how much we were able to share with the network and the professionals that I know now. There'S our tested teams - yes growing, there's no North American artistic team. That'S a big part of you know that it's what's behind the product, which I love and again and thank you Vader for the continued support and for bringing great educators like we're, cause all the people into the hairbrained world, so that we can share lots of love. Coming in Ricardo, Valentino Batista very excited to see curly, hair so rare to see someone cut curly, hair yeah, why do you think that it is that people are challenged by working with curly, hair Ricardo? That'S a tough question. I don't want to. I don't know. I kind of well what are some, how about this? What are some of your own challenges with cutting curly hair? I think it was just fear factor yeah, and I think I don't look at it like a foreign substance. I think sometimes people can make curls like they're like from planet, and I kind of just see, but you really just kind of kick in to the fact that it's like yeah, I just I just have never looked at hair as being was sort of like a One source, material or even the categories for me and like it's, never just straight: it's never just wavy, it's never just curly. So it's usually a combination of things yeah and I think I think well, you know I was. I was based in Toronto and Canada's originally where I'm from and we were super multicultural there. So I was kind of lucky to always have you know very multicultural base? Curls were never that for and I'm Portuguese I've got curly hair myself, so you know what I mean: oh you're, like your mom Carli ever late. I won't tell you what what what term I use from that the texture of my hair, alright. So, moving on to the top of you've dropped down your horseshoe yeah. So now what I'm gon na do - and I love approaching the top like this in this sectioning pattern. It approaches actually from one of our looks in core creative, which is this. This really cool efficient, layered Bob that we teach you to do it. So what I'm going to do here is I'm gon na just pull that curl back just to sort of stretch the guideline out a little bit so deliberately just okay using tension, but you really have to compensate you have to know how much it's got it's like. I know it's, I know it's gon na shrink up a bit, so you know I know this is like way too long here and so what's happening with the top of Genesius head is just that it's just flopping down this way, and so we want to create A little bit of lift here so we're just going to come through we're going to work from short to long all right and then she's got a shorter fringe in the front area that we're not going to connect with. So you can kind of see that one bit or any dropping away. You know, and I approach the top. You know you could. I feel, like my scissor, is becoming softer. What cue finesse I cut it even the way. I pull it because I feel like I'm gon na really you know this is this is an important part. So, as I look at the curl Mike, you got ta go but using the same tension, tension but just kind of overextended hitting a little bad. You know treating it like a sculpture in a bed just kind of going in just pushing the material around a little bit. I know you've cut your nieces hair many times, so you kind of got to know it's wax, but if someone's approaching curly hair for the first time think longer take longer and longer so, yes, I think longer literally yeah. I just like, like in your brain, just kind of go right. I'M just gon na stretch this up because I think the surprise factor of having it sort of shrink down and it going shorter than you expected is the scary part. I think I think, even the first time I remember cutting her hair. I was sort of concerned that I was taking it too short, so you have that thought. You know everyone's got that insecure voice. You know brandishes gon na hate it. You know I I think again with expect. I haven't cut junice's hair, but when I look at it it doesn't look like the kind of hair that shrinks a ton like yeah, because it's got a coarseness and a weight to ensure it shrinks. But there's some hair. That'S like more delicate where you can cut an inch off and it looks six inches shorter you'll see with one of the the styling things I like to do with our hair is to pack the curl as much as possible, so it does make it look extremely Short then, I just blast it with cold air to sort of get that sort of expansion, so draw it down tight and then shake it out. Actly. It'S like a set, get a nice second to because right now, there's a there's. A disconnected panel - that's happening through here and again. What I love about this is we're just we're: limiting the back and sort of just flattening and shortening up and just allowing all the shape to sort of sit around her face, and I think I think you'll really like it when you see it at the end, Because and again you could approach her hair like sometimes I want to go super strong. Sometimes I just want to leave it soft, but again so so I'm gon na approach the second side and what you won't see me doing is actually standing on that second side. I'M just gon na over this way and then approach it from here, because it would be much easier like it started, Ricardo and welcome everyone. That'S just joining us and we have lots of viewers just joining I'm Georgie RPC co-founder of the hare brain community. I'M here in New York City and our home studio blonde studio, working with my good friend Ricardo Dennis and his beautiful model Jenice he's sharing. Really, I think what your whole ethos is is core creative. I mean you're a very fun foundational cutter and I mean that with all respect, clean, simple shapes, but then you combine them and juxtapose them to make things original. They. I know you're talking that that is a class that you're sharing yeah out in the invaded network. So can you talk a little bit about the class yeah so expect if they come and take it? Is it a hands-on? Is a little demonstration? Well, it's creative! So it's it's a class! That'S based off of creativity behind the chair, so one there's a little bit of like an exploration on like what is creativity and we kind of break that down a little bit about how to get yourself started, especially with Instagram right now and everybody sort of equipped With a camera, and then we've got three specific haircuts, and one of them is this really cool star pattern, shag, layered cut and all three haircuts sort of formed, the basis for the essentials of creative, looks or combining patterns, hand, positions and body positions as well as Techniques that are super important for you to know behind the chair and I think for its kind of a class that I wrote thinking what happens when someone a fish finishes: their plastic training. They know a bob, they know some graduation, they get in front of a client, and the client shows them a picture that doesn't look like anything. They just learned in school, so that class is great for people who are just starting out with some experience as well as people have been in the industry for a long time and just want to learn some cool sectioning patterns, and this is really great. I'M kind of showing people how I do like super straight Bob's and the tricks the tricks in cutting hair, the tips and tricks of yeah. I mean, can you talk about again? Obviously you can cap the haircut for everyone joining, but talk about your role at a Veda. I know I don't know how long we spend maybe five or six years ago you became the floor. Now we'll start, please yeah. What does that mean? You know what does that mean for you and what do you? What'S your daily work like well, I'm super blessed. My my daily work tends to, I want to say it kind of switches weekly in a way, even though it's always focused around education. Weekend'S generally mean getting on a plane somewhere going somewhere to teach, there's also weeks that I'm booked to do shoots, come up with concepts and ideas right, new classes certified people. So I was like a dream come true, but it's actually is a really dream job. There'S some somewhat obvious parts: that's never the fun part, but that's just the way. It goes and all work. So alright, what's happening here. I think okay, so I'm just going to. I don't want to connect, but I want to just alleviate just some of the weight. So I'm just going in just with the sort of like little sort of slide technique through the top. Here I am taking my sections on a bias here, so I'm Santa bias. What does that mean it? Yes, what's the benefit, so the bias is just really taking sections diagonally they're gon na criss crossing and, as we spoke about creating some movement through the top and not taking it too low. The bias just sort of helps to. I guess allow the section sort of wrap around a head. It also creates some longer link through the top part of the head, I'm using this more as a way of diffusing this corner that I've created between the two areas, but it's a lovely technique to use on straight or hair and almost like connecting any sort of Disconnected top of them, sometimes just approaching with the bias your buddy, who you mentioned earlier, is watching Aaron Johnson might different Aaron a shout out, absolutely love there and say hi Janice, you know, Aaron was kind of the guy responsible and you as well Gerard for for Starting me on this sort of Instagram - and you know, publishing my work and getting my stuff out there and just a shout out to him he was I was doing some elevates show. I believe that he was kind of getting together with some pals. They were just gon na cut some hair and I didn't even know him and he just wrote my Instagram says: do you want to cut hair together and it was like kind of like some some band members getting together with the fur champs? I love that a la you know. I love, I love what the network and what you know hairbrained has really created, because it's allowed me to sort of connect with all these hairdressers and and share with more people release it. Thank you so now does that work with over direction? Is everything called back to these big being brought back again? I'M not using there's not like this super stationary place, I'm kind of staying in and around the ear area as I do. It there'll be a little bit of freehand that I'll do just as I I finished the cut off specifically for her her bangs. Our frequent viewer Nanette is watching, and that is wondering if you can tell us a little bit about how you started your career. Where did you go to school? Okay, I was in high school and I took it in like an adult day school. I was sort of switching high schools. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life and hair was so he didn't play with Barbies when your I did active it. I totally did, but that's a that's a different story too. I mean I would have preferred GI Joes, but I think Barbies were what my neighbor had, but we didn't have a lot growing up as kids. So we were. We come from a pretty humble background and you know it took what you took. We can get exactly, but I started. I started in Toronto, which is home for me and sorry that vidal sassoon, we actually had some Canadians here wondering when I was Lila T wondering if you'll be back in Toronto anytime. Soon he's got to invite me by me. Okay, so I'm just gon na go into the bang area here, because I think this is also currently fringes are really in right now, at least it'd be a big no for me, and I think they're, super cool and Jenice here wears an awesome one. So, just a little a little bang lesson here, it seems to me like we're at one of the most exciting times for textures on some mid-eighties really. Well, I think it's just when I was that twenty years of yeah hair could not be anything but straight straight and fall straight with it, with an iron wave where we're actually really seeing real texture yeah. I think that there's this whole thing about acceptance of what you have and not trying to change and that sort of goes with everything right now, which is really cool, so I'm just gon na take that I want to graduate this fringe, and so it's just like A little little pointer just to bring it down, I'm just gon na go off the existing link that she has right now, so is that kind of a square use constrain at least totally square, but just gon na give it a graduated effects. So what really happens is those other guys start to shrink up behind that baby Mendoza is wondering about the section. It'S rather a large triangle, so she's wondering why so far back so when you're looking at how far back it's really based off of the person's forehead and so what you it's got a beautiful Florida, as do I so when you live, I'm choking on Mike my Own, so when you're looking here, you got ta sort of look at you know from the jaw to the nose. This is our job. This is what we actually have to do is look at people, so we measure from like the nose to the jaw and then the nose to the bridge of the brow here and then from there to there. You can kind of see she's she's, very even in these areas, you can almost kind of see where she balances out and then, as we get to the forehead, we can see. We'Ve got an extra little extra space, or this is funny, but this is a hair hair yeah and when you get a bang wrong, you know you've got a bang wrong because you've got to push the too far forward cut it too short. If it's now and bouncing the face, so if she's gon na wear her fridge, really short - and I don't take this far back enough winds up happening - is ends up looking like it looks sort of transparent in a way it doesn't look thick enough and then it Will convince its er shrink her face yeah that was kind of beautifully explained, and you know you really show how as a designer, you can really transform someone's future yeah. I think it's. I think that that's one thing we don't do enough. I think we look at magazines. We try to put pictures on rpm, I'm gon na look like Sasso. What about being the best version of yourself exactly you know, and I and I love that as a starting place. I love when people bring in pictures. It makes me feel good, you know to know, I've got a place to start or a place to sit to communicate with, but you know at the end of the day, everything you're doing is tailoring so you're taking what someone has or is expecting and you're tailoring It to work with them so bangs, you know your bobs everything's just about tailoring here. So I want to welcome everyone. That'S watching! I know lots of people are just joining us and we are here in New York City. I'M George Grove AC co-founder the here with my friend of well over 20 years, probably 25 years recorded with Dennis we kind of started our careers together back in the day and so amazing to see what he's done and how he's grown. And today he works as the global creative haircutting director for Veda working on developing classes and shows and big events like Congress. I know one of the things you're really excited about is your core creative cutting class, and I know a lot of what you're teaching here comes from that dancing the foundations in a unique way. Well, you know I worked in in Spain and Madrid and I worked behind the chair there as as a stylist, and I felt that my clientele was amazing and passionate when I first got there. I felt, like everything, was a little long, hair and a little closed off in terms of show us what you're using so this is so I'm going to show you guys my sort of combo for Janice's hair here, I'm gon na start off with some brie curly Style, prep I'll move into some be curly enhancers I'll combine those together the class I loved the class freshly amid New York City. You got a napkin fixer and curly yeah. This is kind of creating. Like I mean when you, when you do curls, you got to know it's about, you got to have the right product. So there's note there's no question about that. So this is going to kind of create the right environment for her curls to dry, and this is gon na give me a little bit of hold. I will finish off probably with some leave on conditioner. This stuff's amazing. That'S a favorite to put in my own hair and a new one that we've got is our rinse this refresh, and this is actually mainly for like second day kind of curl, but I'm probably going to use some because I'll do a little freehand I'll dry and Mess their hair up a little bit and I'll just put a little bit of that to sort of get it back. Okay, so first a base with the be curly style, prep, adding the moisture and then some of the curl cream, yeah and so the the main thing with those cocktails together or they separate I'm gon na put them in separate in together. But for me I like cocktail II, but I like the idea of knowing what's kind of gone on the hair and layers. Sometimes cocktailing can be a little too strong for me, but that's a that's a preference. I think for a lot of hairdressers. Her hair doesn't need a lot. It just needs a little bit of a couple different things you can see: I'm not wetting the hair down, so I kind of want the product, especially in these she's gon, na cut these little areas of tend to be a little drier, which is normal, especially around The front from the hairline and we're gon na do our our favor by everybody, which is the B curly and that's more. It gives a little bit more structure to their it's, not just the leave-in. It'S like an it can be considered like a curled intensifier right. I like it as a relaxer as well, so it kind of can do a little bit of both. I guess you've been around the veda world a long time ago. You can remember, be curly, and how am i great? It'S like. No, these two products, the one, was to enhance curls, to make the hair straight and all these years later being currently still one of the most popular products. I think you know. Sometimes people get a free D really work, but I think I got to be gentle. I think this is uh. This is a mirror time. This is you're you're, trying to make the hair sort of malleable. Like look at like some of the drier areas, I think some really great tips around like setting specific curls. She doesn't need that. Like honestly, she doesn't mean that what I'm gon na do is there's gon na, be some like little dangly bits that I want to just approach this. Is it it's sort of like dries? She can have a quite an inconsistent curl pattern. What it's long again now was that a fixer now Simkin fixer, so we're just going to you'll see what I'm gon na do here start to dry, and you know that basically kind of, I always think of it as like. Putting a shell on top of the moisture, you know you go yeah, you're kind of like putting some crunch into the hair literally and then it sounds like you're gon na loosen it up at the end with the finishing product. Yes, I kind of love the effect. Also love just the sort of yeah trick as well, so I have to say it smells wonderful in here. That'S you know again, if you're a big fan of Aveda half of it is aroma and of course you know, sustainability for the planet, something that's, obviously a big part of the Aveda mission. So once it's said that I'll just sort of blast it just a little bit of water right got my diffuser sort of medium, medium setting, and so my mom. I want to sort of compact and I want to allow the sort of silhouette of the pearl you're going to see this again. You know really short and compact and then you'll see me stretch it out and bring out those curls. So you're also using your hand like a board, no like pushing the curl yeah. I have to give Antoinette benders credit for this. You have to show me this, so the people spying technique, but you just really compact the curl in. I think the scary thing you know a lot of us do when we're drying just trying to stretch them out so that the customer doesn't get too nervous about it's getting short, and I have this one customer that I cut all the time. I swear to you. Every single time she walks so totally happy, but every single time she says to me this is way shorter than the last time and when she walks out there's never any mention of that comment, but there's always that, like blow-dryer people have their their quirks that they Do on Sunday that's learning to work with clients yeah like the way people see themselves. You know you kind of have to be. You know strategic, not just thinking about the cut, but thinking about what's gon na influence the wearer on feeling good. I'Ve got great haircuts on people and I'm like this is amazing, but if she somehow saw her daughter, let's say - and she said mom, my god, it's so short that kind of ruins the whole set up for that cut absolutely, and so I always tell people you Know here, if you're creating a big change in the salon, I try to make other stylists my team members and workers aware of what's happening so that they're able to combine. I hope you met my guests or back up what I'm doing, and I think so long work and working behind the chair is all about teamwork, so you know you're banging off someone's there. You know you want someone to come over to Jennifer and mrs. Smith and say give mrs. Smith. I just saw this. You know from from over to my station that I just want to come over and say: that's looking amazing. Really it's not just. What'S all in the head, it's what's in the head, but it's just like think about how influential people's comments are? Yes, and so, if you just cut someone's hair on and you and you know it looks good you want to do is shoot the confident you know. Maybe the first person is gon na see is a insecure boyfriend or a possible husband that could hold in that make sure your builder clients. Now it's the hardest part of getting success to address. So it's not being great with your hands, it's being great with the psychology of psychology and also being comfortable with it, because we're selling us that's to be so. Everyone, Oh totally, can't handle it. You know think about what makes a successful hairdresser it's not doing. Trends like you literally, have to be the person that's changing, and that requires a lot of guts and this willingness to fail. You know, and I believe that, like if you're that person it's in the chair that people come to see specifically for change, you know you know, you know what what that does for you. You know how taking that chance. Just really allows for you know the advertisement. I think of you as a hairdresser and as an artist and that's how you get reported oxidation yeah. You can't get referrals off trends. No one says that quarter-inch looks really so much better, a Hindu, Lincoln Bank wave of being that person. What do you think about you know? Let'S say you don't have the super brave clientele? What do you think about doing like models for free doing a lot of transition and all the time yeah? I think it's sad. You know, clients aren't going to take a chance that they see or feel the confidence, and I think a lot of it sometimes comes because someone else has done it. Maybe the friend, but I think, building your reputation around change, especially because of the attitudes, the grandmas Wilson, the procedure work. You know we kind of have to feed that, and you know in your mind, if you think about you, know what kind of hair clip. So you imagine, we were gon na be with you, you know, grew up. You know I picture myself. Is this person out there to changing people's their? You know hide the man's, not the comfortable. So how do you know when it's dry, you know, do you dry? All over the way, my dried all the way, I'm not up I'll, try it and then dry it a little bit more. I don't I don't. I don't want my clients walking out. You know 70 80, 90 % wet. I think the fuse is a service. For me, so I wanted a fuse that I want to finish. Look I don't you know, I also always think of it. I, like a set, you know if you put rollers in someone's hair and you leave a 10 % down whatever you do is gon na fall out and it's the same with curl. I even leave it 100 percent. Damn gon na. Let nature take its course or dry it. A hundred percent. I just want to go back to one idea around. You know people who don't have a more limited clientele, because I did that I had that I was in Spain. I could totally relate to that. There was no short hair, the most creative haircut I did, I think, was a bob, but creativity is not about how much paint you can put on a board. It'S about a statement that you're making with that person. Creativity could be anything. Creativity could be take a client, that's never changed in their effort and putting a bank on them and that's more creative than putting on Mohawk than someone who gets a mohawk all the time, so kind of really evaluate the work side. A bit and dig the foul. You know you change see, they get something to cut their hair off, you know or wear their hair on bits inside that is free with making your an impact will change it and the other artist. I always felt before, like don't underestimate. Another powell have a plan to see, but so often I just tell it crying, you know, have you ever thought about doing this and then I'll follow up six or seven more times on that person, but I won't just plant an idea that I don't want to Do or punch an idea that I really want to do on this person and I'll make sure that I follow up on it. So that's important as well. Okay, so I'm just going to turn around before the high game. I'D cigarette back like 90 % dry now and then just before I do any cutting I'm going to blast it with cold air and allow to sort of take. You know if you ride. You know totally not such a great role pattern. You could always sort of set the hair as well, because you that what your opinions about color with curly hair - I know you specialize in haircutting. But what would you talk about with a colorist she's got some really nice sort of highlights happening through here I mean I love adding depth to girls, so yeah, I'm totally into color. I think it's such an individual. It'S such an individual thing about tailoring and customizing. You know getting the right color not doing something. So obviously, police lots of love coming in shape is drying in beautifully guys if you're watching stick around for a couple more minutes. This will be some really important, refining steps that are gon na happen here, as Ricardo mentioned it's about getting that shape and then detailing it. So, stick around couple more minutes to see the beautiful finish here on SHINee's and boot check out my mom Denise sees that soul Thunder seems like the super awesome awesome, coming musician, hair kind of like too easy right kind of bluesy music, incredible boy. You check her out she's, like Hello, super cool people. Here anymore, I got a blast thing. One more time is going dude, hey, you're, a bit of a musician, already recall that mob the guys have a jam together now so many types of talent yeah all right. Now we're going to break it with our old glass and now the hair is dry, so it's the curls really set in and you're just expanding it, and I just love the way that works yeah. It'S got that very raga texture. To the way. All the way can go there. You are the inventor lug, so you can just kind of see how that this connection just helps to break up the silhouette, but so generally, what happens is I'll finish, cutting her hair and then still get spa, because New Yorkers are all about stopping other people. I'M going to give her some cards yeah old school, but it still works if something's gon na stop you or you gon na, take their phone and like make them follow you on Instagram. Is that what you do beautiful loosened up now excited to see these final few important moves: okay, the Edward Scissorhands so going into a bit of free hand. Now so no coal necessary, no comb, shake it and that's great, and then so it's like approaching. You know where you think this shape, you know, might sort of work against you right. So you start going right. Okay, so let's have a look like in these guys here I love what's happening here. I lied to you. I am gon na pull a comb out and, let's just go in with a sort of just something to highlight that really nice curl there - and this is a wonderful tattoo there. I think one of the great things about we Andy hook is the girls with tattoos. It'S so cool, thank you, okay and then we'll just just, and so look at look at all that really beautiful stuff and how that sits and the way you're able to maintain. That is by changing the angle on the side. It'S actually rotated your fingers out. So it's it's like short, but it's not like naked, so it's kind of getting shorter to longer concave ish on the sides and then just I remember I used to be so terrible at curly hair, especially drawing that maybe I still AM but they're, not what I Would do is I've just got all the curls I didn't like yeah. I think you got now that would great concept hair dry, it tight and it nice and defined shake it out, shake it out a few times and then do real. As you said, you're Edward Scissorhands, it's kind of you know if you've got a great shape. This is just going to customize all the little bits and bobs and then so the way I look at it is, you know, instead of just jumping to the other side. I'M just going to move to the next room, and so you know this is just the sort of freehand part. You know we might even just shake that a little bit get rid of some of these guys a little weak or allow the thicker ones to sit there. That length on the fringe is just perfect. As I look at the screen here, the you know, you really made a beautiful choice there for geniuses face, which is what it's all about, and so we're just twisting and then you kind of break out. So there's no like chunk with the curl, so the benefit of the twist. It'S just something like it's like a texturizing diffusing for the curl, because there's no like hard snip, there's like a softness that runs all the way up to the edge of the hair, and then we can just come down and make sure that the silhouette is sitting Upwards, okay and then you know knowing your cut and just knowing where the weight is so like thinking about where that disconnected panel is also helps. Oh okay, let's just go through this other side. Now you're fully committed you're like this is what the hair is and I'm gon na work with it you're not going to change it you're trying to really help it express itself, yeah yeah yeah. Absolutely absolutely! You know I I think about like. If you want someone wearing like a different shape or like all of us as hairdressers, trying to get people to wear something, that's different than the day to day that we've seen in the salon or Hollywood, it's it's really about taking the classics and putting twists and Spins on them, you know when you look at like clothing in fashion. You know you can really relate a lot of the clothing still to the 20s and think about the fashion industry from that standpoint and then think about how much it's changed and how much it actually has it, and people can experiences, can experience that with you in Your new class is that well, that's kind of like the point of what we're talking about. Is that creativity isn't just some like made up. You know, let's start from scratch, it's more about. Let'S take what we've got and how can we reinvent what we're doing you know it's like a typical like white shirt or even a suit. You know those are those are items that you update season to season because of the the length the cut or even the color. So when you think about you, know cutting clothing in that same sort of way, it's like wait. A second people are only wearing what they recognize understand and what fits in today's sort of like function. So you know generally anything that breaks out of that people consider really horrendous climate. It really becomes part of an underground, punk culture. Exactly exactl. You know, I mean think about tattoos and dancing think about one five years. I want what may be a pirate yeah. What makes a mohawk like commercial, where the sides aren't taken off. You know so there's always this sort of adjustments, and I think that you know when we think about where we want to be. I think sometimes people start their expression in such a place. That'S so unrelatable, but that's what makes it difficult. So you know, and also just you know, for for people behind the chair, one of the things I get a lot in my classes, people say Ricardo. I do the same thing day in and day out and I think about musicians that have to sing the same song day in and day out, and it's like you know, you've got to put on the best performance and think about if someone's literally requesting the same Cut, that's a greatest hit, that's kind of like a compliment to you so think about that. When you do your work, just don't do a you know, a same old job just do it like better than you did last looking fantastic Ricardo lots of love coming in lots of fans really really enjoying this and getting a lot out of how you're working with Curly hair, I think a lot of people are excited to learn more about your class thanks. Wendy Pryor, for putting the link up here for people who are interested in attending so looks like we're pretty much getting to the finish. So any last things you want to share with us, you know have fun, we see shorter hair, more texture will be busier in the salon. Maybe our cutting game can gap to our color game is, and we can all make more money. So final product is oral. Rinsing, I love the color and its really nice, so this is like sort of second date product, but I'm using it. This is pretty much brand new right, the rinse list refresh. So that's something that people can use just if they don't want to shampoo their and they want to freshen it or you can use it as like a finisher to put more moisture into the bottle of water. So if anybody who's like go to the sink and just hit their hands and water and put that on their hair, that's gon na probably really is it's also amazing, because it actually adds some hold. Thank You Ricardo. Thank you, everyone for joining us and thank you to Veda for supporting hairbrained continually helping to spring a great education to all her followers. Thanks Ricardo, always a pleasure hanging out. Thank you guys, he's beautiful thanks Courtney. Peace out guys,