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C&T - Leoni Joyce

00:00 - Intro

01:39 - Instagram hairstylists & lash techs

31:00 - Ardee and Christianity

37:17 - Guest Introduction

38:45 - Clubbing in London

55:10 - Win or Bin

- Spin around the block

- Relying on parents for money

- Gentle parenting

01:22:11 - Are You Smart?

01:35:31 - Hot New Releases

01:44:53 - Hot Topics of the Week

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It'S CNT baby. This is very anticlimactic now, because this gift is not how it should be okay. Normally, when I come on a show, I like to bring a drink. Okay and I was like cocktails and takeaways what better time to bring a drink right. We had a bit of short notice for this, so it's not a fresh bottle girl. You gave me a half drug bottle, even parts of a past. Half do you know you shouldn't have even given it to me at this point because you've been to my house, but you've never tried Ugandan Jin okay. So I want you to do you like gin, Uganda or Gary I'd say that again, Uganda we're out we're grounded. So we say why did you pick up all the ugandas? If you know what this is uh, I'm scared to drink it, but I'm gon na that's gon na be my second drink. It'S like the Ray and nephew of gin, oh whatever percent. They said on there. I think they're like thank you for the quota. The one quarter bottle of uh gin. That'S very um. That'S the best gift I've had on the show after um taser, blacks, um. I know you got your fresh Bowl fresh. I still haven't opened it right. I want to get straight into it: yeah, let's go because I love a chaotic week, but I feel like this week in particular, you know when I talk about chaotic weekend: it's usually a balance, or sometimes the boys, sometimes the girls within the week, but the girls. This week here have really really outdone themselves. Let'S talk about Instagram, hair, stylists, okay right so there's been a big conversation on the internet, about Instagram hairstylists and one girl jumps on Instagram and basically called out this hair. This uh hairstylist, basically saying that you know she booked in a she. No, she didn't book an appointment. She wanted to buy hair from the girl, yeah and the girl said it's five to seven working days. Five days later, the girl's still waiting for her hair loading loading loading loading, the hair, never came, the hair came eventually. You know, there's so many different stories. You know them ones. It'S like it's like a me, too movement for hair. When one person comes with their story, everybody another goal, another one. Thank you another one. Thank you another one, thank you, and then they became this big thing of just people talking about dead. There are issues with the one girl and then other people are not coming with issues with one guy. Have you ever had a bad hairstylist experience? You know, and you said that I started to love because in my head I thought because I'm I'm you've known me for a while now you can tell I don't really do weave or anything like that or wigs yeah. I used to do weave, but then I remembered back when I was doing braids like oh, my God, this girl and she was a lot younger as well. First of all, she came to my because I would you know you pay a bit extra and they come to your house. Yeah. She came to my house, she came. I think she was like an hour and a half late, but like an hour prior to that she's like yeah, I'm just around the corner around the corner. She shows up at my door, then she's crying she's, crying I'm awkward. If people aren't crying, she was like tearing up and then she smelled like weed as well - and this is my family home that you're coming into and I don't have a family. I do but not from me yeah yeah, okay parents cool and then she didn't have enough hair. We had to go so I lived at the time in have you heard of like Elton new album? Yes, yeah, like closer to Bromley, all the closest hair place, lewisham yeah. So now we're trekking on the bus. That'S a white people place yeah. There'S some cities. They ain't gon na. Have the women they're not gon na. Have the African hairstyle they don't. You have to check from Lucia, so how long does that drive or that not drive bus back these times so and it was hot that day, so it was like an hour journey to go, get more hair come back. Oh, my God, and then my brothers were there and we like to have a good time. It'S a Vibe, we're like drinking whatever she wanted to get involved and start the drinking and what she's doing it was just and the sad thing is she did my hair. Really good, but back in the day I used to do a lot of my wigs by myself, because your girl was so broken he broke. So I was the one of those girls that I used to do a lot of my hair by myself like if it was wigs and stuff. It'S only been the last three or three years. I'D say that I've started going to other people and I haven't. I can't remember I have had a bad experience where people have said, but I did have a lash Tech y'all. I don't even give a I'm gon na tell this story. I'Ma tell this story so basically the Lash guard, I usually use she's phenomenal amazing. I don't know why she decided to go on holidays down yeah 10 out of 10.. Now she's amazing she's, amazing. She is phenomenal, um, I'm gon na say her name because sorry she didn't pay for the promo. So when you're ready, when you're ready to work with me, we could talk, get it get me, but for that I've been playing clients, I'm a paid customer. So I should not do not. I'Ve got her name is T Beauty she's for like this girl. Yeah is so good to the point where, when I lived in Lutheran she was doing my lashes. So when I moved to London, she comes every now and again in it yeah. So I'm like yeah. I I have to stay with you so the two days a week she comes. I have to see her somewhere somehow but yeah, so she decided to go on holiday. Now. You know when your favorite hairstylist eyelash maker goes on holiday and not a quick Weekender. This was gone for like three four weeks. Oh damn sis went on holiday. She she went, she went, she went so obviously you need to get your infos done every two weeks. Okay, I didn't know this yeah. You need to get it done. Every two two to three weeks: it needs to be that's how you end up with like two lashes on your eyelids kind of a thing and they're just looking like spiders. So I was like. I need to cheat right now, because I actually don't have an option. So I spoke to the bad girls on Instagram. I said yo yo yo, who is the who's? The girl that's doing the lashes in East London? I need to know so they're telling me about this girl someone's like okay, go to this girl. I said Okay cool, so when I now booked the appointment, I noticed that on her appointment, she it's got. What'S your Instagram handle? What'S your um now she goes what's your Instagram handle on her email now with me yeah, I don't. If you don't know me I'd, rather, you not know me because I just sometimes I just want to be a customer yeah. I don't want to be like. Oh, oh, oh so I just said I just put my email in so what happened was that it did that specific day was hot hot to blood clot. That'S when it was huge stroke this year, yeah this year, okay heat stroke. So I remember, I took the bus it had it had her postcode yeah, so I took the bus to the post. I took the bus to the postcode, but the postcode was quite broad, so I didn't know where I was going now me. I didn't. There was no contact number and I didn't want to Instagram DM her, because I didn't want her to know who I was so I was. I was just hanging around waiting for her to contact me and she was like and then obviously quite a lot of attitude. Hey um, can you let me know if you're coming or not, because I've got other clients um after you, and I was like hey um. What did I say? I said something like hey: the the page only had the postcode and not the that person had the postcard, not the full address, yeah yeah and she was like well. If you look as per my terms and conditions, you know they love to drop that ass yeah. You will see that and what you will see that the full address is there not gon na lie? I don't I I didn't have time to read you on 20 pages of contact Edition, sorry anyway, so I now met her, but I was not gon na lie. Yeah when things start like that, I'm already on it, I was gon na say that sets the tone that says the tone she set the top of me so obviously, now um she was like yeah you're gon na have to pay 10 pounds because you're late, I Just said, okay, so I've gone into the Bando that she calls her, that she calls her workspace. The girl that did my hair was probably there too. Let me tell you this is the way she smells guys. Let'S talk about this, how dare you, how dare you yeah charge premium prices yeah for hair and when I'm coming into the space the worth is falling apart? The carpet is dirty. You have pieces of hair dropped. Drops drops drops all over the room. Your house is smelling, like I was already so basically have space in particular. She she had walls and the paint was falling off. The place was messy, like all the place was just Scrappy Scrappy Scrappy. Obviously, because I had a shoe, I was so desperate to do my lashes and it was like almost lost legs, so anyways. I sat down on her dirty chair and I should I had to do a removal first so because I had them four lashes or five lashes. I had to do removal, so she goes okay, I'm gon na do the removal and she was then trying to ask me. You know how was your day and stuff but sorry, I've already called attitude. Yeah fine, but I'm fine! Sorry, when you do it, are you sitting down so we're lying down? Oh you even have to lie down. You have to lie down like you're sleeping with your face up. So obviously the music is playing she's, trying to make small talk of me yeah, but I'm not being rude, but I'm not being my fame yeah girl, we outside yeah, I'm fine and I'm cool. Everything is okay. Thank you for our skin yeah my eyes, because she goes I'm just gon na. Do the removal now and I'm gon na off your lash, and I said: okay, thank you um. So she's now done the removal she's done the removal. She'S put the the serum. You say you have a serum down at the top of your eyelashes okay, clink film, so your eyes are shut. Okay, so the music is places playing music on her phone. So maybe about three minutes in I'm just gon na pop it to the shops. I'M just gon na pop to the shop she pops she now she's now left here and because she's left the furnace now left. The music is now so you're inside I'm insideless, not that it makes even a difference. But will she go into the shop to get something to help she's going to buy juice and drink because it was a hot that day, but not just not did she ever say excuse me, would you like a drink or something? Oh, my God, to quench her past to question, so imagine I'm in a new place. I'Ve never been seen you before. I'Ve never worked with you before. You'Ve left me in silence and my eyes are shots. My eyes are closed. So I'm sitting there in silence. I'M thinking wow, you will next week. You know people come in to the place you feel like. Madame Joyce is here yeah? What are you saying like what this girl lack cool? So maybe eight minutes later no she's now coming my eye is still shot. So I can hear everything that's going on, but we can't see my eyes closed and it's not like. I can open it because this thing is like a acidity. I don't even know what they put but yeah. That'S it. So I'm closing my eyes and you know when you're talking out loud. You know when you're talking out loud, so she's standing there she's took it to herself, because I know there's no one else. It'S so hot man, it's so hot man. Oh, my God, it's hot! I can't be bothered, I can't be bothered. I can't be bothered, hey, I'm tired, like that's how she's doing I can't be bothered man. I can't be bothered for this. I can't be bothered for this. I'M sitting there thinking I'm actually still here yeah. She can see you like I'm here like you're telling me you can't be bothered and I'm actually a paying client like yeah like what are you saying cool, so she's not come to me. She'S now checked the lashes. She goes. I'M just gon na give it another. 15 minutes I said okay, so she decides to call her friend she said being the man. I'Ve never expressed this because I've only ever used one lash technique and the game I use is phenomenal respectable. She won't be on her phone. If somebody calls her okay I'll call, you back leave the phone. This girl pick, I don't know if her friend called her or or she called her friend, but she was like she was talking to her girl. So imagine this. The the the the tea was so good. I even listened it, but her friend yeah has has this girl who, like you know you have those wishy-washy friends in it, so that friend has now gone out with a group of people that she doesn't like. Okay and she's finished some type of way about it. Okay, cue: the conversation yeah, I've already told you about her, like how you're gon na go out with your Ops. How is she gon na go out with your Ops, your Ops? I don't understand that. That'S not what a friend is supposed to do. I'Ve already told you she's a fake friend she's, a fake friend, she's, a fake friend. My eyes is closed. Yo, I'm thinking! What'S going on hello, what's going on? What'S going on, I've already told you about it. This is when it stopped going left because it went from that. Listen, you need to stop talking to her because listen I've already told you about that, like you need to it. Oh this thing all I was saying was and as I was lying there, my blood was boiling. My eyes is closed. I'Ve now put my hand up like this, and I said, excuse me, I said I don't feel like. I want to continue this appointment because I just feel like this is very unprofessional, you're effing on blinding I'm lying right here, like it's, just not respectful that she's. Like. Oh sorry, so me, I've now caught an attitude yet so I've now gone. I'M not gon na lie; this is so ghetto like this is the ghetto like. I imagine. I said this is the guy. You don't know where she is. I said this is the ghetto and she's like I've already said. Sorry, I really said sorry yeah. Listen. If you don't want to go, that's fine, but I've already apologized. What else do you want me to say? And then I said: okay, okay, sorry, I said okay, I just mean you know, because my ass is closed closed, like just because in my eye is shots. So I said if we could just finish the removal, I'm happy to pay for the removal and that's it so as now, she's now done the removal. It'S now, it's quiet, she's, now removing it and she's like okay cool. How does that feel? I said fine. This fan she's removed it she's removed it she's wipe the lashes off cool cool, so she's now washed my eye whether she's spotting it. I don't know she could have spotted the water for all. I know Jesus so when I'm now leaving. What happened is that when you book you pay a deposit yeah and then because I always freeze my monster guys if you know about Frieza because listen yeah. If I decide to do that 30-day free trial, I don't want to pay for it after and I don't want you to be taking it away from me. While I'm sleeping sorry, I'm a hood, you know we got one thing: we're gon na. Do we're gon na we're gon na? Do the free trial we're gon na run away, you know, cancel it. I always forget to cancel it. I'M one of those people. Imagine Microsoft. Word took three 360 pounds for words, because I did because I had a 30-day free chow and after the future, you now pay for the year. It'S 300 pounds for the year 200 200 for Words, yeah Microsoft, Office office, oh the whole office, the whole office yeah. I'Ve paid for the year, not that I use it and I was like I forgot - to delete it anyways. Basically, her Booker system takes the money from you straight away, but because my car was first the car the car declined. So I just said to her: oh yeah, you know um. I saw that I saw your books to try to take money. Money from me and um um try to take money from me, but obviously my card was frozen. She was like and then she goes yeah. What did she say? Oh, what did she go? She goes. It was quite passive. She was like yeah. Obviously I sought the system because that your card Declan because you had insufficient funds - oh did you and your eyes are open at this time. Where was my because, if your eyes are open, I feel sorry for her eyes are open huh, because your eyes don't know, but my feet. My eyes are open and I looked at her and I said sorry I said my card was frozen. I said I'm not struggling with money like you're, trying to say you're trying to say I'm struggling right now, honey, I'm not we're not struggling! Please it's not that deep, so anyways as I was leaving um so anyways as I was leaving that I just kind of felt bad, like she's, very, very aggressive and um, when I was so. Obviously I didn't have cash on me, so I monstered her the money, but imagine like a dummy, because I was so panicked to leave you. I must have you know before you have to conf you put the details in then you press send. Then it will give you the overview and then you press send again, so I must have pressed send once there not realizing that I need to press send again and she was like okay, I sent them. I'Ve sent the I said. Oh, I've sent the money. She now wants to go and check her phone and she goes I've not seen it. This girl put her hand on the door. No for Tony Brown man, it was like 20 pounds. She put her hand on the door like this, like I've, not seen it and she's. Looking at me. I said yeah wow, so I've now paid the money I've given it to her, and I now go about my business and then from Monza for Monza. Okay, I've put the reference by the joints. I'Ve gone, I'm not like hold on a second, I paid a 20 pound deposit um, the the the removal was like 15 pound plus 10 pounds, or something like that um. So she ended up owing me, five pounds. So I messaged the girl, I'm at the train station. I said. Oh sorry, I've just realized that I've overpaid you because I paid the deposit. You know what this said to me. What did she say? She said? Oh, the deposit is just to secure the day and for my time as in time before, you've even done anything, she said formats is to secure the date and it's for my time. Africa does this girl high or she mad, because the definition of deposit it will get deducted from the final book I said, and I was I must have text her like the deposit gets deducted from the final bill. I'Ve never had I've never had this before then. She now said: oh, oh, what's your Instagram by the way, because this is my personal number. So if you can send me your account details on Instagram now I believe she didn't know who I was um and she wanted to see who I was so. She now is. I was like all that, so I now messaged her on Instagram. She now paid me the deposit back and the plus you're, not pay me the money back plus. She even gave me back the late fee - oh okay, cool, so that was that was the end of that. I remember I said I met. I did the story time on Tick, Tock live and then people were messaging, her and stuff. And oh really, she was just lying saying: oh um. The reason why I'm upset is because I didn't have the money to pay and I was upset because I didn't want to pay girl. I got my lashes done the next day I hadn't even had to pay for a you know in uh special times. You know early morning I had to pay extra 20 pounds for in uh full set. Oh that's that girl - and I told my I told my hashtag. Never in your life go on holiday. Again, that's the more of the story of the stuff, because that pissed me the off. No, when you find someone good, you said like I've been going to the same hairdresser since I was about 16 mm-hmm. I haven't gone elsewhere since because it's good yeah they put the price up. I pay more like I don't want to see. What else is that I don't know the girls are suffering, but why do you think this is? Why do you think that the Instagram hairstylists are so bad? I don't want to speak on all of them, but obviously with every job. Sometimes you get training right. You go through training, you know how to conduct yourself like the hairdresser I go to. I remember my mum used to go there when I was a little kid. She used to go there when she was working at another salon and she used to also train with like Tony and Guy people as well, so she knows their hair industry. She knows how to welcome people in how to treat people how to keep her Salon. Looking good, which I'm sure many other people haven't trained with certain people, no, but some people just like, as you see with artists. Sometimes they have this overnight. Success, they're going and they're doing interviews and it's just a mess because they haven't had the time of trip was that for me? No! No! No! No! Oh, that's quite a big spot coming up. I can't see it it's. You know it's underneath it's underneath, but you're. Absolutely yeah yeah, that's the problem. There is no process, everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. Everybody wants to be entrepreneur, but I'm starting to feel like the reason why people want to do this. Entrepreneurial thing is being your own. Boss means in some people's minds that you, nobody can hold you accountable and that's the problem when you have training, there's a manager that holds you accountable in your wrongs. This is not how you talk to people. This is not how you conduct yourself. This is not how you do things, but whereas everybody is trying to do the oh yeah, let me go on YouTube and learn and learn hair, there's other things outside of hair. That is still as important into the role making sure your place is clean. Some of you are using the same comb on the same person over and over again you don't know how to sterilize, there's no sterilization right. That'S why I I saw one video of one girl, where I had mucus like coming out of her eye, because there's no sterilization you're doing it in your mommy's, your mommy's house, your mom, doesn't have lift. I have to climb the stairs to get to her house now. Big man thing. Let'S talk about but and the biggest thing of running a business, no matter what the business is is your like skills with people like and a lot of people, don't know that it's all about building relationships, yeah and people aren't focused on that at all. They'Re not focused on building relationships at all they're, just quickly, interpersonal skills, Quick money and go quick money and go and also, I think, it's their focus on. They just want to say I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a business, I'm a business, but do you actually want it or do you just want the title? That'S the other thing. Do you can? Can people not hold you accountable because it's like, if it back to the scale on Tick Tock? If many people are having the same matter like to the to the way you're ruining people's birthdays like it's people's birthdays, they need to get their hair done. Your your cooling there's one girl, that's um, oh no! That was what it was. That'S what the original girl was like. It was actually her friend's birthday, yeah the girl booked. She said the hair to the she sent the hair to the house. Maybe the day of her the day of the girls appointment, oh I'm sick! I can't come anymore. My chest is hurting me, I'm like bro. I don't think she's done it several times: yeah you're, sick, you're, ruining people's bastards. You you don't have time keeping you wan na. You wanna you wan na make as much money in a day, but you don't have time keeping so back to back to back to back hair. You have you end up having people who your someone is coming and you're still doing someone you're still carrying someone's hair or you're still doing someone's wig you haven't, you haven't done someone's wig in advance, you're still doing it on a day like right now, the issue Is is that these Instagram hairstylists they don't have the training process. They don't have development, they just want to be once they slap a picture on Instagram, all of a sudden, this bad B, bad B, Galore and that's it - and this is where Word of Mouth can be good in that industry. But it can also be bad because everybody's recommended you so everybody's gon na come to you and then sometimes maybe they may get a big head about it or whatever and feel like I've got the people. I need to worry about the service anymore, exactly yeah, and it's like I've seen businesses shut down because of the reputation there's some people - I don't know how they're still running. I can't even lie that because the way people have been talking about them all for these years, but I what I love is that people are now coming forward with their story. So if you decide to go to that person, please keep your story to yourself because that's your fault. What was the name of this person? I don't want to say today. Okay, so anyways you'll see all over Tick, Tock, there's review pages and everything, but I want to say something as well say: fair enough. These IG hair stylists are really bad, but on the flip side, some of your customers don't have a class. Some of you customers, and I'm not just talking about in for hairstylist, I'm talking about everyone, I'm talking about. If you work in retail, you know what I'm talking about. If you work in a domestic job, you know what I'm talking about if you're working customer service. Yes, I know what I'm talking about. Some people are very disrespectful. That'S why I couldn't do those jobs, because I will punch you, I used to work in a restaurant. How was that it's a character building. Let me tell you because it's like number one. It was like um French Windows all around it was like it looked like a conservatory. Basically it was at the national Maritime Museum. So it's all glass windows we're wearing all black. So it's hot you're hot continuously, and the one thing I learned from being there because you're behind the scenes when there's an issue with your food, don't have an like an attitude with the waiter they're, not the one, cooking, your food and a lot of times. People give it to the wedding: it's like they're they're, not in control. I just I just planted it Stephen play it. I didn't even play it, I'm just literally bringing it out. Yeah really, and you have to be nice. Be nice like when I see people talking to taxi drivers rude way too sweet I'll, tell you the story. I went to go. Do my ponytail first of all, shout out to um. What'S her name up, do London? Oh! Is that what yeah up to London? I loved she's the only girl that every ponytail you've seen on my head has been her. She is amazing and she's a phenomenal human being one of the nicest people you will ever meet very nice, very quiet, even if you're late, she's she's very respectable. She won't be barking at you unless, of course, there's another person out here and of course she told me a story, and I said wow wow, that was a that was a basically there was a girl who was coming to do her ponytail and she's claimed that She had left her phone on the bus and she's with her friend the girl came to appointment. She. She was already three hours late three hours later so Doyle was like. If I did have another person um, I would have done your hair. I would have done something quick for you done your hair. She had another appointment after there's nothing. She could do at this point because you're gon na ruin someone else's appointment because of your. If you see the way this girl was talking to her yeah, but why are you gon na not do my hair? Why are you being such a for? Why yeah, no people, some people, I I believe, a screenshot on my um Instagram? Oh, she sent me a picture of the girl messaging her. Why are you being such a? Can you do my hair? Can you do my hair? It'S my birthday, you're gon na up my birthday, but you allegedly left your phone on the bus you're three hours late. You up you up your birthday, there's no one else to blame you by yourself honey. The way she was speaking to her with your big heads, who do you think the girl now came to her house? She still came and run with came with three of her friends to come to her door, to say, after all, the rudeness can you do my hair, please? Why would someone want to do your hair? After that? I find it so weird I found when, when I found people who are rude, weird thinking that, if you're rude, you're gon na get results that works very well with white people yeah when you bought people, because but if you're working with a black person, if you're Gon na be, to be honest, don't be rude to anyone anywhere the minute, you're rude, you should say to yourself: you don't want it anymore, you don't want it and you're. Just gon na be rude. If you're gon na be rude, don't be rude! That don't be asking comments in my head. You Madness, she's, a very! She doesn't do cry. She doesn't do competition the way she handled it was very well. I said you're good, because if it was me I had a customer. I know you I would have. Are you dumb? Are you dumb who's? Is it you came three hours late? Is he anybody's fault? Accountability is vital, but yeah anyways guys, I would say, go to a salon. That'S what I would say go to hair salon yeah and even if they're a bit late at least you know, they'll bring you tea, coffee, they apologize whatever if they're running a bit behind, but it's just. I just prefer the hair salon. The batteries are not doing it the way the batteries are not doing it. I know some that are really good, but yeah man. I don't know it's not it it's not it. It'S it's a gutter and this conversation has been happening for a very long. I know I do see it pop up every now and then it's a very, very long time very, very long time, but yes, we are gon na move on right. So obviously I was looking at something and that was been. Aussie has been in conversations this week. Yeah um because there's a track that he jumped on called Messi and heaven and there is a verse in the line that says I had Jesus - did cocaine on a night out yeah and um yeah. He did a snippet of that song and everyone is going crazy about. I want to know your opinions on the matter as a Christian woman, so I'm not a Christian woman. You know get out. No, I'm not, I believe in God yeah, but I'm not Christian. I wouldn't say: like I practice, Christianity, you don't practice. Christianity grew up, you don't practice anything, no okay, yeah um, but even when I heard the song I was like yeah. I know guys come on because any other religion - you're they're, not gon na I'm not even gon na, say what they could say. But they're not gon na, go there and say that and if they do, certain repercussions will be taken. Do you know what I mean, so I just think people really do like to take the mix when it comes to Christianity and I'm. I know it's nice to say something. Sometimes that's catch you. It causes a bit of controversy but leave Jesus out of it. Jesus wants no parts of this and he did I. He did not do cocaine on that uh. He did that he didn't whether you heard that from the pits of hell no, but I just I was just like there's so much other stuff. This is what you want to do. Do you know what I've realized yeah, I feel like we bite the bait all this hard, the black community, about debate all the time, because I've realized that what a lot of PR people have realized yeah is that controversial cells chaos cells, like outrage, black outrage, sells More than Black Celebration, if you were to look on Twitter and see a congratulations, it's not going to do as well as a controversial tweet or people insulting each other yeah, and I feel like now PR labels. Why PR labels have recognized that? Because there's no way that you guys all had a meeting and sat down and was like? Oh yeah, you know we really think this is going to be great. Of course they knew that was going to be outraged, but guess what outrage sells outrage does better than than the good stuff. The congratulations The Well Done. People have started picking up to that. So if and guess what there are a lot of people who don't believe in God so will not be offended, I feel like majority like, if you're looking worldwide, there's a lot of people who are atheists. There'S a lot of people who are who are not Christian Buddhism, uh, Buddhists, Muslim, maybe maybe not Muslim, but um, Buddhists, atheists, spiritual and I'm not gon na feel any type away about that song. So, if, if it means to sacrifice and offend a smaller community in order to push the song enough for the masses to hear it, they're going to do that and guess what guys this song is gon na chart, because you bit the bait you subconsciously were talking About the song, you know we posted this song, yeah you're, pushing the song you guys that haven't listened to it now. What is going to happen is you're going to come off this in uh this. This content and you're gon na play it and be a player because I've spoken about it. This is what happens. This is what Society is about now, when I see things that news articles where they get the wrong, they get the wrong black person on the on the thing or they do a a title. That'S like slightly racist, you think that's on purpose, definitely not come on guys. It'S not by accident. It'S not we're talking about people who are educated, who sat down and did their uh thesis on newspaper article that can write well. Do you think the stuff is on a purpose? No, because outrage pushes outrage gets you views, outrage gets you focused and, and not everyone is going to be offended about um black outrage, not everyone's going to be offended about. Oh yeah, you disrespected a black person, they're gon na, be like oh what these little shouting about yeah I mean that's another view and that's another eye and that's another listen and that's what I'm finding now, if we as a collective stop shouting about things, I think They'Ll probably leave us alone, but they know that when the black community are angry about something it pushes this, it makes it bigger. It makes it traffic, your name is trending. Your name is trending on Twitter and, like they say, there's no such thing as bad press. This is the thing I feel like, maybe though it may slow down, because I was singing comments. People like guys, let's not even talk about it or do you know who is it I think shade Bara posted it right yeah and they posted the song at the end and someone's like well. Why are they still posting the song? Someone said at least now people can see, hear the song here and not go and listen to it on Spotify and give it like charting views, but the whole outrage being like big companies do this like, for example, I remember hearing Starbucks, you know when they write Your name yeah, they write it wrong on purpose yeah, because you're gon na go now and post this on Instagram or whatever. Oh, my god, look how they spelled my name yeah promo for Starbucks. I did it yeah. All these companies are doing that. Yeah they've includes in like no one has gone. No one cares like shade. Borrower is not posting, your album launch drop, they don't care, but if it's attached to chaos, they'll post it they're, not posting oh yeah, you know they did a phenomenal job. Well done. Let'S congratulate them, it's just not the space. Everything is about being messy, being chaotic, and if you can get into that space, then people probably gon na - do they're gon na do it. You know what I'm saying they're going to get those views they're going to get those things, so I think, with this artist situation, like you said Christianity, like I, don't know, I feel like that, was the easiest Target like you can't you can't talk about the Jews. They will look, they will lock your ass off. They'Ll shut your down. You know what I'm saying the um, the the Islam Community. I love them. They'Re gon na break your house. They don't with that they don't. No. They don't know that they don't they. Don'T they don't with death when it comes to their um profits and their religion, they don't mess us Christian people we can do, is shout out and be looking at each other. So that's that's the end of that. We were the easiest Target. That was the easiest Community together. Just all of this all of this all of this he's still good. It'S still gon na try. It'S still going to do well, I'm all gon na move on and that's and sadly that's that's the game. That'S how it is. That'S the game, but guys without further Ado. I would like to introduce my guest honestly. I am so I always say honored, I like to say honor, that's after everyone, I'm so honored your hair. Today. This is one of my good friends. I honestly, like I, don't have many people. I will call friends in my industry, but miss leonidors here is just sincerely one of my friends like such a beautiful soul and if you do not know who she is, I'm sure you're ready to. But she is a content creator, a lifestyle, blogger and the creator of her very own editing style. The Leone Joyce edits it's none other than our Edison Queen, that are popping a locking Queen, and that is the first time hearing. You call me Leon you're, one of the few people that call me Joyce, because people that don't know like my first name's Leone middle names, Joyce named after my dad's mum and all my family call me Joyce and like friends, work or call me Leoni, and it Sounds weird: when someone? That'S not my family calls me Joyce when you say it genuinely, because it feels right. Yeah, all the batteries are called Joyce, honestly, not because when you're, like oh yeah, my name is Joyce too how's that code. That'S what they call you yeah I'll call you my namesake, oh yeah, I'm so happy to have you I'm happy to be here. How are you, how are you, how is your week been talk to me what you've been asking good? I was saying to you earlier. I was out last night, okay girl, I went, I went clubbing guys, 30 plus it's different this side. Let me tell you, I don't think I need to be in the clubs anymore. Are you going to tell the people how old you are because I don't think they'll believe me, I'm 30, 30 years of it 30 and a half technically yeah the dots, and so I went to tape. Um and I have friends who like know people whatever we were on a table, and I was just like number one: I love the people in clubs are younger, so I'm just like they're a lot more excited and just like and the minute the people who whose Table we were on when they arrived, because when it was just us I was like okay yeah. Maybe it's a bit when they arrived. I was like yeah um, I don't even know, but I think they were someone because they had some um security. No, they had I'll say it well, they had, I wouldn't say who I'll tell you they had some girls from love Island come in to be with them too. So I think maybe they were footballers or something like that, but it just I I don't want to be in there getting all these bottles and everything I'd I prefer to go. No, I don't want the sparklers. I prefer. There'S a club in Canning Town Called Pier One right, wait on a Sunday. It'S a Ugandan event right. So I'm with my people - okay, I prefer being there or if we go out to events - and you know the people who are going to be there or it's a friend's birthday, a big group of you are going out but to just go out clubbing. That'S not me anymore. Let'S talk about it. I can't do it for a second yeah, because I feel like a lot of girlies yeah go to take for you guys that don't know who are my International bad, bad bees and bad and bad bees. Um tape is like the club is in central London and it's supposed to be like the bougie Club. So that's where all the celebrities go to party and it's supposed to be where all the the big boys are big girls go to essentially - and I've been there once before, and I hated it yeah because you know what it is there. You see a lot of excited impressionable girls, yes, that they will see this person at that person, and the excitement is just too much for me like and the guys love it. That'S why they're doing the popping bottles they love the girls around them. They want all the girls to be like. Oh, he got money, let me be all mysterious and stuff and honestly it just it just exhausts me like girls, would be packing up the VIP trying to squeeze themselves and stuff. It'S just very, very it's just very, very Bush. For me, the only reason I even pet myself even go there is. We have a friend who she's down from Barcelona, so I was like okay. Well, we went out for dinner first and then we decided to go there. I was like listen, I'm coming for one drink, I'll, literally counting down. I think I was in there for like 20 minutes, one drink and I was out even someone's, like oh you're, leaving. I was like yeah I'm leaving that one drink, that's 30 pounds 30 pounds for a double that I mean it was on the table. Thank you. Oh okay. I think other thing because you know what's so annoying about those places. I don't know why Why Us black women like to squeeze ourselves up in there, they don't even laughing they don't even like us, dab literally, if, if we weren't on that table, oh my God, because the queue was crazy, we would have been waiting for ages. I hate this story all the time about these high scale, clubs that day and here's the thing high school when you get in there and you're. Looking it's not that High School it felt like. I was back at Uni or something like it's not that uni basement race honestly, like these high stock scale clubs there we love to squeeze ourselves up in there, but trust me sisters. They don't want us there. Those are not our people go away or celebrate. I'Ve. Seen so many highlights go what you're celebrating I've seen so many videos and stories about girls going to clubs and literally standing outside standing? You can see the the girl standing while all the this, the Slimmer white girls are now just being shifting being entered in entered in entering I've, seen it with my own two eyes. What'S the? What is the point? I think there was one club that was very racist, very racist. I call my boys but the got shot down. Yeah yeah good. This got shut down. I can understand where sometimes, where there's like a group of guys group of guys, I I could. I could be like okay cool, I understand when 12 men are coming into a rave like you guys need to come home, you need to break up because sometimes it could be prone to fights and stuff. It'S the guys that fight the club, but girls like were the people we. The only reason why you would not allow us into a space into a club is because of how we're not fit in the estate, because we're lucky black, because the black girls are the baddest bees. You'Re, not saying me. As a black woman, I could say that we're the baddest bees we could not have to come correct, we're gon na step into the scene. Looking all clean, We're not gon na come like. We know how to switch up one day we can do Bonnet, but when it's time to come to these places will come correct. So really, no one could tell me that it's because of how we dress, because you will be dressed 10 out of 10 head to toe looking pristine and somebody in New Balance. Trainers will get in there, yes run run through trainers, bending and crease up shoot. They will let them in I just that them type of places. Don'T don't even accept me anymore. I'M not gon na lie like unless there's like a like a private party, I don't even go. I don't even find excitement in. Oh, let's go to the club on a week: yeah! No and it does. I think we've been spoiled a bit right, so we've been going to events, our people are there we're always there right. So when I go to other events that are just like, there was one event we went to recently and everybody was just confused like what is going on. You know yeah it the best way to describe it. It felt like I kept saying it felt like it was first day of sixth form or something, and it was a secondary school and people were there that had been. It was amazing people, you were there, it was a mishmash of people, it was um, don't say loud. What does it begin with? Where was I was I walking like? Okay, sorry guys, sorry, what is it? Oh, you know that was, I don't understand yeah it was it felt like a Savory and that wasn't even the worst of it, because sometimes you'll go to other events that are just stuffy and just the pre, and he said I'm just like. Oh get me out of here: do you know what yeah I've realized that, ah I'm not gon na say this? Yes, I really don't like party with artists. I I think that Africa music artists on my phone. I don't think I've ever been every time. I'Ve ever like every time I see music artists, I'm just like no like you're, not think your soul, nice man, you don't think you're. So us and I'm not gon na speak for everyone. I'M sure there's a lot of nice music artists out there, but I feel like every time like I remember we went to an event and bearing in mind what all industry, so we are in the VIP area. Please tell me within the VIP: why were they segregating it for these artists? I just think that's weird, I think yeah there's too much Prestige, Prestige, there's too much of this with them. Like one thing, I love about the girls that it doesn't matter who? What where we are they're it up we're having a good time it doesn't matter who's around us. We'Re gon na break we're gon na yeah we're gon na lean. You know you have those, you know, you have those girls that in the club yeah and this could go for this goes for anyone. You have your friends that are like yeah. Let'S have a look at that: yeah yeah Shia, is one of those people yeah, and then you have the girls with the Press face doing this yeah yeah that was like at the um black panther after party. I grabbed nifa and said we have a whole Dance Floor. Why is no one on it? Let'S open up the dance floor, because people just stood around the dance floor like that, oh the yeah. I start dancing they're playing good music. We have a whole dance floor. It'S not being used on stage and you're doing yeah. I don't um from the even when we were in when we went to Malt. It was me you Moya and Shola. We were like. Oh listen. I need a compilation of more you're doing that waste. That Poppy waste, I need a compilation, because Moya is this: wasted talk Queen, really that boy was tick-tocking all over all time we enjoyed it. Why do like life is too short, let's stop being fake bougie. Can we actually stop this like big man thing like? Ladies? Ladies ladies, can we stop being fake bougie? Please, let's have a good time, I'm not saying go and be sweating it out. Yeah! Don'T don't don't do that? Please don't be my team. Don'T do that, don't be the sister in the middle. Please that's my worst nightmare to see my man just that's that one. I can't I can't co-sign, but I what I can co-sign is girls, how coming out and having fun. Don'T let anybody it doesn't matter. Look to your shoulder, don't let anyone tell you, you can't have a good time everybody's doing um, because trust me, I will be dancing 100. I will be booty popping and whoever them lost. If you look, if you like, look at me, if you like, don't look at me like that's your business, but I'm kind of tired of seeing this fake Prestige behavior when I go out the thing is, I see I'll, be like that's what you guys want to Do I'm here to have a good time I'm gon na enjoy myself have fun like you look good right? Why don't you tease the man be shaking your bomb? Let them see what you got, do a liquid bad girl and for them like unless your high heel will shut her. And then I understand, because sometimes you you're standing in the corner because your foot is swelling, but I would say drink responsibly, but also, if that is the case, drink more yeah, get yourself confident crack get you some um, get you some Uganda and get that down. Your throat and have a good time, because I'm tired of it and also let's talk about Pier One. I I'm talking about on a Sunday when it's the Ugandan crowd, I'm not advocating. I feel like we've spoken about maybe, but you haven't been with me to Ugandan chilling girl. You spoke about Pier One on the show before so. Oh on the show yeah, I believe. Okay, I've said it briefly. So Pier One is a pair one is a uh Club, it's another club, but we're talking about tape. That'S bougie Central London. This one is the docklands. You see docklands and it's basically a afrobeats club yeah, but it's basically like one of those uncle uncle clubs in it. So basically all the uncles uh go out there. That'S where they go to listen to afrobeats. It feels like you're back home, though they're barbecuing meat outside yeah they're, sending jollof outside in the boo. After when you leave all the auntie's husbands go find her their girlfriends yeah did that lie or what you went to pay one ticket. They were all. Thank God. You went to people that they were all single men. You know that's how the married men go to. I did not know this yeah, that's where all the married men got to go to find their unibabes, because all the figures there you're gon na pay, one there's two reasons why you're gon na pay, one one, because you love afrobeats, two you're trying to find sugar. Daddy, that's on the truth. If you're trying to find the sugar that you got to pay one on a Saturday on a Sunday honestly you're going for the Uganda, they don't spend money leave them. I remember one guy was there was one guy that I was talking to and me yeah, I'm one of those people yeah. You can't finesse me, I'm sorry, you see this post is close for it's closed. You can also, I think, somebody there was a guy that he definitely tried to do. Fraud on me go ahead, but also you Golf and ask me because my name is Joyce. No, so this guy, by the way he was see he looked like he looked like if I say I'm not gon na say what country is from, because people will know that he looked like a bit like the game, a bit like uh. What'S his name, Jamie Foxx who's, one of my number one crushes: how did you get from Jamie Foxx to the game? He looked like a mix between the two he had like. I think he had gold teeth and I'm making this up. I think a gold teeth. All of that right, I met him. I'M not gon na say why I met him at an event cool and then we made eye contact whatever exchange numbers got talking and go here, and so then I was you know. After a while messaging someone, the conversation was a bit dry for me, like he didn't have enough range. I was just like over it type thing, but then he was messaging me. This was 2019 December of 2019 when everybody was going to Ghana right and he was like. Oh, do you want to come to Ghana, and I was like I kind of did, but I was like, but in my head, I'm like we've, never even been on a date. I don't want to go to Ghana with this guy's like yeah, I was gon na. Go with my sister, but she can't make it anymore. Um you just all you need to do is pay for the name change or something like that sisters and uh sister. He has an actual sister. I will say that, but I was just like you went in there. I know absolutely not because I was like. I don't think this is real. I think you're trying to do fruit on me and Joyce in December. He was in London.

Realtordidi: How can 267 be watching and not like ….. like the videooooooooooo

Martha: personally, I feel like beatings from my parents as a kid did more harm than good only because in hindsight, i remember them more than when my parents were affectionate, which was rare. and remembering how helpless i felt because other elders would co-sign what my parents did and how rightly defending yourself from their violence would be considered "disrespect." so i had to create apologies for them in my head because I knew i would they never would. and now i'm using my adulthood to heal my inner child. hence why i would never put another child through the same thing. i want to be more creative with raising a human beyond using pain and fear.

xoxoxoxoxc: I don’t personally agree with beating my children. I and my siblings were beat for things like playing too loudly/not being smart at school/watching some tv shows as well as other valid things so the lines on what was a valid beating were blurred. Whilst it didn’t affect me personally, my oldest brother had beatings the worst and now it has affected his relationship with my dad. The two don’t speak anymore and he’s told me it’s due to the trauma caused from the beatings.

Andy Struye: Joyce small correction: we dont breath out carbonmonoxide but carbondioxide. But yes carbonmonoxide is definently a dangerous gas, thanks for bringing it up.

Leoni joyce: I had the best time on here with you sis

MIRI X: As a child of 7 kids and immigrant parents it’s disappointing to see our generation still hold on to beatings as a form of discipline. In every other sphere of society, physical punishment is rarely if ever a repercussion for a mistake. I’ve seen my siblings become traumatised and afraid of my parents because of excessive beatings. I think teaching your child and communicating what they did wrong and taking away luxuries/things they enjoy is more than enough to teach a lesson. I wish we’d let go of beatings once and for all because it really traumatises children. Also no disrespect to the both of you, I just feel passionate about this topic. ❤

Nana Yaa Adu: Establishing boundaries and exercising discipline do not have to be synonymous with the use of violence and beating. Even Madam Joyce's examples of "beating" were not really beating tbh, which shows that deep down we know that there's something off with choosing to beat your child. Even Leoni didn't feel comfortable with the thought of beating her kids. Definitely a BIN for beating your kids. Gentle parenting can work if you are actually disciplining your child through other means.

lefxxwill: Joyce looking phenomenal today <3

MsTeo: Honestly I love your podcast with regards to soft parenting I get it but, children need boundaries because your child will end up resenting you, it even says in the bible “spare the rod spoil the child”

Honest Truth: Madam Joyce is spoiling us with the two hours long episodes …. Purrrrr.. love this for us.

TeeByNature: The story time with the lash tech, I can relate

CONVICTED NOT CONDEMNED🇬🇧: I disagree with nepotism. By all means help your child establish their own lane when it comes to nepotism but taking opportunities from more talented and deserving I disagree solely based on the merit of hard work and talent

Banoffee P.O: Joyce finished me when she imitated the lash tech’s voice

Maggie__k: Imagine her children are biting their nanny love all ur episodes as usual dying of laughter

Favour Aghaeze: gentle parenting is a glamorized way of saying permissive parenting style. This style is basically being very big on kindness and warmth but having a hard time setting that parental boundary (wanting to be the child's friend). But this style can be very much detrimental to the child as they grow up to be more impulsive and aggressive, have horrible social skills, and knows their parents will come to their rescue (helicopter parent). It's definitely a BIGGGGGG bin for me

Bene Shololo: You should get sola patronne on this !!!

Agnes.claraaa: YOU ARE HILARIOUS JOYCE

naya tarot: physical punishment doesn’t HAVE TO be abuse, but within the black community, i feel like black parents are abusive moretime. they’re get too comfortable and too quick to just grab the belt or start slapping up their kids. it turns into a “beating children into submission”. i’m sure that reminds us of something historical regarding our ancestors right? if black parents want to continue to use tactics that has been passed down through generations of our family from slave owners, to beat someone (their own CHILD) into submission, then they can. but they can’t be surprised when they end up in a care home with non of their children visiting them. i also don’t believe that a lot of black parents are even mentally well enough to understand how beating doesn’t have to turn into abuse. a lot of our parents have been traumatised themselves, holding onto anger towards their parents from childhood, and then projecting that onto their own kids. our community is too messed up mentally for me to support something like that right now. what black parents need to learn is how to unconditionally love their children and also how to have a conversation like a grown adult. not just slapping tf out of kids.

Amira Riyama: How can that lash tech charge a late fee then go shops to buy juice. These insta beauty girls are frustrating

Q: MJ is hilarious with that lash technician....

Mulinde IV: As a Ugandan, I can confirm Chill & Grill Sunday at Pier One is Litt and Ugandan Men are not stingy ‍

Indi go: WHAT?! I paused it before you said the FALALA xmas song with JB and Boys ll Men and said to myself " my fav xmas song is fa la la, but no one knows about the song like that" and then you MAN SANG THE TING

Victoria Domingos: Joyce you’re looking so nice as per, going to chop whist I watch this

Anita Bruce-mills: Fairytale of New York by the Pogues is the song Leonie was singing. I love it too!

Mayama Quisia: nah i don't think beating ur child is the only way (or even a valid way). ur manager wouldn't fly kick you in the chest for being late? so why should your parent? kids need patience and understanding

beomkyutie: i dont think people have a problem with nepotism but its when nepotism kids act like they got there all on their own and are the same as everyone else aka lily rose depp

rosieposie: lmaooo she's talking about fairytale of new york, what a christmas bangaaa

Shine Right: I don’t think they mean beating the shit out of their child, I believe is more like e.g. you are in a supermarket and your child starts crying like crazy because he wants a,b and c. And you keep telling him that he cannot have it(and you try and try) but he doesn’t want to listen, and you smack the child. By law that’s and aggression, but to me is not. Anyways I was that child, and I understand my mom for that. What I would never do is the belt thing or proper beat my child!!!

nemoxx96 xx: Tape is definitely not boogie. So overrated! I was wondering what's all the hype. Went there and was thoroughly disappointed.

haya: Can we have a episode with a bad boy or bag girl like a supporter?

Wala benamara: You should bring dairy room girls

Uncl.Dexter: Do you not think the reason Christians are less explosive about things like the Ardee thing because we are taught to turn the other cheek? I think we collectively have an understanding that ‘their time will come’ so it’s not for us to enact God’s vengeance. I think it’s a very two-sided coin situation coz if we don’t react we look weak but not reacting is pretty much what we are taught not to do that the Lord will provide.

Cali Harlow: Wanna see Stefflondon up here

CONVICTED NOT CONDEMNED🇬🇧: My comment bin bin bin bin bin bin bin made the cut much love @madamejoyce

Jennifer Okerenta: What that woman was doing wasn’t gentle parenting though thst was neglect

Just Elsie: We here! Ready!!!

Old Kev: ❤

Just Elsie: Omg omg

Laura: My name is Joyce too, oya show me love

Batenga Kiboneka: Not she brought the waga

Takadzo: My name is Joy

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