Lace Wig University Graduate: Victor Moore

Hey: what's up everybody, it's Marquetta president, and I'm back with a special episode of Marquetta Breslin live tonight. We have a special guest slow down Marquetta. They have a special guest by the name of Victor Moore. One of my favorite people on planet Earth Victor makes me laugh he's gon na make you laugh tonight. Do me a favor share. This live with someone who needs a little bit of inspiration that loves wigs. Just as much as we do all right. I will be right back and then I'll bring on my special guest after I say hello to some people in the comments right after this. This is profits study for greatness. We strive, we dropping them over here alive. It always takes forever. I need to shorten that video all right. Everybody what's up today has been an amazing day, um, I'm always extra. When I get my hair done, I just got my hair done. Y'All shout out to my brainer, oh my gosh. I did not know what I was gon na do um. I have a two day live event coming up on Sunday and Monday, and then I had to teach my class that I just got done teaching for fully booked wig maker at five o'clock and she couldn't redo my whole head. So I said we're gon na have to hide those tracks, so we decided to do this and I think it came out nice. I like it. I love it. Oh, my goodness, I'm so excited for tonight, because tonight we have an extra special guest. His name is Victor Moore, oh, my goodness. Wait till y'all meet Victor, so I met Victor face to face a couple years ago at one of my live Live Events, and I was just from the moment I met him. I just knew we clicked. I said. Oh, he is going to be a fun person to be around um. He graduated from my mentorship program. He came in um. He had some breakthrough at the five-day event and then he's been back to volunteer to work the the live events which I so appreciate uh. He even helped us out in Atlanta. He was just out here in Vegas in July, helping us out there as well. So I wanted to bring Victor on tonight and, and he also graduated from lacewig University, and if you haven't seen his work. What are you doing seriously? You have to go and look at his work. It is beautiful, it is amazing and he's got some other cool things going on, and I just know that you're going to be inspired by his story and by some of the things that we talk about on tonight. But before I bring Victor on, I just want to say hello to a couple people over in the comments and listen make sure to like and share. This live all right. So hello, hello, shout out to all of the Inner Circle members um where they at Cassandra shout out to Cassandra. Ronisha um, Lena, shout out to you as well and Felicia and all of the um all the Inner Circle members that is on here tonight. Rhonda was here super early Rhonda said I'm waiting, I'm waiting, hey Rhonda. How are you Nancy, hey Nancy Nancy - was here um as a volunteer as well in July um, I'm so thankful for you guys Nina Nina. How are you Alexis D says? Hey Victor AJ says: hi Annette, hey Annette. How are you, Valencia, um? I am d. What'S up, I am dashelle Ward uh Gigi, how I hope, I'm saying your name correctly: um Annette Stewart. How are you you Shakira Inner Circle, member, hey, Shakira, um, Demi, Demi Demi? I hope I'm saying these names correctly y'all charge it to my head and not my heart. Uh Sandy Rose. How are you Tatiana, Tawanda Veronica, that is the beauty, so Sandra Brooks was another amazing human being that was at my live event in July volunteering. I so appreciate y'all so much Giovanni Giovanni. What'S up how you doing um AJ, I think I already said Hey to AJ anybody else, Sir Paul, how are you it's good to see you Theresa C Thomas cholina, hello, another Inner Circle? Member? How are you everybody? Oh, my goodness, all right, it's time to get into the conversation Victor is over there getting nervous. Oh we're gon na laugh tonight. Okay, we're going to laugh, I'm gon na go ahead and bring in Victor and we're just gon na get right into right into this interview on tonight. Victor, I told y'all he's starting already already so at the Live Events Victor named every one of my wigs. So today, before we hopped on, I said Victor: what's her name Victor? What is her name? Her name is Princess Imani, easy, because if y'all don't know who that is that from Coming to America at the live event, so Marquetta showed up one day. I think it was like the third day or something like that, and I was like who is the new lady. She wasn't here for the last couple days that wig threw me completely off. I thought she was another nationality and everything foreign. That was a good time. It was such a good time - oh my goodness, so Victor. Can you take a few moments to tell everybody who you are and what you do? Okay. So, of course my name is Victor Moore. I have been a licensed cosmetologist for 17 years um. I know it seems like a long time when I say it online and also I mean life is cosmetologists. I'M a licensed um instructor, cosmetology instructor, so I've been I'm dude. That'S been a long time too. I think almost 10 years with that and yeah and with let's see what what have I done in all this time, so I've of course been behind the chair. I'Ve got into education. I work for a major color brand for years teaching people how to color hair um, also how to cut travel. The country doing that um. I was the director of a major School here in Atlanta. Oh, I live in Atlanta um did that for a while. I'Ve been in the classroom, I've uh made a couple, wigs, um and yeah. It has been. It has been amazing like even before the like. I got into this, not by mistake, but the reason I got into even Beauty was. I was thinking. Okay, I had a corporate job, I had a corporate job for years and I just it was a point. I was like okay, what did Corporate America decide? They don't want me no more and I was having that thought process. So I said what can I have that I always keep I said: well, you know what I could I could own a beauty salon, but but I didn't want to work in the beauty salon. I was like no, but I wanted to know what the people in my business were doing so I said I'll go to school at night, which I did. I had a full-time job went to school at night and what I thought and it was a technical school. What I thought was like: oh, I take a course here and there they were like uh. No sir, like you gon na go and it's gon na be a year and a half, and if you don't it's gon na be even longer. I said I ain't got time to be coming back and fooling with y'all. For that long. You probably said it just like that too I did. I did so. I went to school at night and it was that the instructors were amazing, um. One older lady. I think that was probably like her second to last year before she retired she, she told me how to do finger waves. Oh them finger waves, were not my friend listen. I say oh like that, because that's to this day I do um rolls finger. Rolls finger everything, but not a finger Wave. Wait! It'S just not my thing. I just I don't know why I couldn't get it and I could not get it either and she and I kept doing it. I couldn't get a wave to save my life, all them. Girls were in my and the school I went to, we were in the hood and there was some hood girls up in there, so they knew finger waves and they were trying to. They were trying to make me do the fan like I don't get it so myself. She said Mr Moore you're gon na have to use more gel. I said jail is disgusting. I was like I'm not using any more jail on this mannequin she's like no you're gon na have to use more jail because back then we didn't have the Nairobi phone Nairobi or it was the jail, but that one day when I got that first wave you You would have thought Heaven opened up because every mannequin had a finger wave on it, but that was I did that and then I really when I was in school, I really fell in love with hair color, because I, like I like chemistry and chemistry, I was Just drawn to it because of chemistry, so I would buy additional color test stuff out and I was just drawn to hair color. So when I had the opportunity to become a hair, color educator, that was for me, it was like wow. I I didn't even know that that stuff existed um, hair, color educator and the company. They were all about education. They were all about chemistry of of of hair, color, the chemistry of hair, and it was like it really elevated my education level by working on them and I'll recommend to anybody. If there's a company that you love and they have an education department, if you want to learn education, I mean get into um, educating with a with a with a major company, because the education you get from them is is priceless. Um and I didn't have to pay for it like every every time. Yes, because there's some companies out there. Yes, that will make you pay and they make you pay a pretty penny to teach other people how to use their product. Yes, you're like but wait a minute. I I I'm educating for you, oh okay, all right so um but yeah I mean it's just and I still love hair color to this day, um and even though I'm not behind the chair like I used to be because I still got a few clients. You know because there's some folks who never go away. Yeah, I'm like one of those people to my people that I love I'm not going away right like there's. I got a couple people that no one else is coloring their hair. No one! That'S that's! That'S it! I'M that person and you have to just live with that yeah. So yeah, that's that's kind of been my journey and then you know, though so another thing how I got introduced to you. Oh I couldn't yes, I could not braid and I could plaque now. I could I could plait, but I could not braid a cornrow, no, not to save my life, so I was on it. You know I was on uh Beyonce's internet. I was like okay, how do you, how do you cornrow so uh, who pops up I put in how to cornrow and who pops up right with a good old DVD saying how to cornrow braids by Breslin, yep, yep Victor? That was a long time ago. I know I sent a picture of it to you a while ago. You sure did you know I have. I have no copies of my DVDs really none. Well, I have that one Braids by Breslin and then I still don't know how to cornrow. I feel you there are certain things that I'm just like you know, I'm just gon na wash my hands of that and leave it to the people who specialize in that, because it is for me because it ain't for me, I get it. I totally get it. So with that, I ordered that got it and had you know it was on it for a while, and then I was like okay, and you know you would send me stuff every once in a while with through emails and stuff, like that, I was like. Oh, so you wouldn't like once I got that I was never like a stranger to you or you wanted me. Yes. So when the wig thing came up the Box, I think it was your legacy. It was the lace wig training system in the box, like yeah, in the big box with yes, yes, I have that wow. Then I started to I think what happens like. I looked at a couple of them, but I was still doing other stuff and, like you know, working Behind the Chair and also oh, I managed the salon have my own Salon, all that good stuff, and then it happened that it came out where you did it Online, where it was well yeah 2.0, it was the 2.0.0 yes 2.0 and I said well, I might as well do 2.0. Since I didn't do this box, so I did the 2.0 and it was like it was like. Okay, I'm doing it and then I think with the 2.0. That'S when you offered um to come out to Vegas, yes, so come out to Vegas and that experience was yeah. Mind-Blowing um had never experienced anything like that before um and I think that first whoo that first day we were, I believe we were um ventilating yep yeah. So I thought that was going to be like those uh finger waves. So we were ventilating and I was like okay and you came over to me. You were like just take your time. I was like ain't enough time in the world for me to get this on this lace, and then I mean I did come back and I I did practice because I wanted to get it so I kept doing it if I show you that first piece, because I still have it, don't think your lace closure should look like you need a relaxer. That thing is so nappy at The Roots. I think I might have tied it four or five knots every year. Look, it looks a mess. I was like your legs did not look like you need a relaxer and it should not have new growth. No, no. If it's not on purpose, it was not on purpose. Giovanni said: you got to start somewhere, yeah yeah, it was. It was a place, but I kept at it. I kept at it because I wanted to get it. I was like I'm gon na get this I'm going to get this and then eventually I was like. Oh so I can't do a single night. It can't with straight hair and then not like you know it needs to relax. I kept going and kept doing it. I was like wow. This is. This is great, so yeah, that's kind of got us up to the last few years, but I guess with. I guess pre-pandemic he got yeah yeah that pandemic endemic some things that happened in the pandemic yeah. Oh some folks got had to get their life right during that pandemic and and yeah. You really realize if you have people in your house, if you like them or not, because you were stuck in the house, it's true, because it was the first time that parents had to be with their kids 24 7. and they were forced to be with kids Or spouses were forced to be together because, most of the time people leave to go to work, and you don't have to spend every waking moment with your spouse so right it was, it was different. People got to live our lives like we've spent all like. Even our kids, because we've homeschooled our kids for so long before kale went back to school, so that was regular life for us it was, but it was it's it's not easy because we were forced to be at home. Now. We even though we we all are close and tight. We can also leave too, like okay, I'm going to the gym, I'm going to have my me time pandemic. No, your me time, you better go to your room right and you're better, not keep that door closed. For too long you might Escape exactly exactly so it was. It was very different for a lot of people yeah - and I know I'm friends with a lot of school teachers and during that time, when they had to do virtual teaching that really that that lets. You know who was a really good teacher, who would basically yes, who would keep those students engaged over the video yeah yeah yeah? So I want to go back a little bit because I think that teachers all kinds of teachers - I don't care, what kind of Teach You Are, and I know how it is to be a cosmetology instructor. I'Ve never been one, but I know what it's like, because I remember being in cosmetology school and seeing everything that our instructors had to deal with The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. So what was what was that like for you, because you most people only do it for a short period of time and they're like I'm out, I'm not right! Yes, so how in the world, did you last that long? So here's the thing while I was doing it, I was still doing something else as well. I was still teaching colors. I was still doing that I've always done more than one thing at one time. So initially, when I started, I started at night with those students and night students usually have a more of a maturity level than the daytime students. Yes, so luckily I got in at night and it was like okay. This is, I mean this is good um, because they were more serious. It was a smaller class um and it's not. The thing is because I have been in industry for so long. I and I have been training and training even before I got interviewed, because before that I was a software trainer, so teaching people was not a, it was just the subject. The subject matter was different, yeah right right, exactly so getting up in teachers like okay and then bringing in um practical. It'S like okay. Well, this is what the real world is. You know this is what the book says and yes, this is going to prepare you for stay bored. However, this is what real life is as well, so doing that, and I think for me the Rapport that I have had and have with students, because I still substitute here and there too, because I still like to get keep my hand on a little close of The what's: what what are the the new students? What are they, what are their expectations of this industry and they're going to be the new people in the industry taking it over? So I think my rapport with them has always been just I'm gon na give it to you straight um. This is how it is. I'M gon na treat you like an adult until you show me that you need to be treated like you're, 13 years old and and when I tell you for some reason, when grown adults with children get back in school, they become middle schoolers you're like don't. You have children, why are you acting like this? Why and it's it's crazy. It'S like they just change like. Oh, my goodness yeah, but I think I've lasted is because there is a love for it. There is a love for transferring knowledge to someone else, knowing that it's not taking anything from me at all like have it, you can have it because the thing is I want. I don't. I want them to be better than I was and better yeah here and it's like. I said it doesn't take anything from me to give to you um. I always tell people and and it's if my hands are open I can give and I can also receive. But if my fists are like this, I can't get anything Give It Away give away. I mean, and there are some students who are remarkably talented, just naturally you're like wow, because I mean there's something that I've met, I'm like wow, they are super talented and then there's some. You know they're not there for the right reasons, they're, where they're there, for the reasons that they want to be, which is a whole nother conversation, but the ones that want to be there um. But yeah I mean there's, there's a love for it um it is. It can be, it can be very frustrating for me because I want them to get it and they're just looking at rainbows and puppies like what it's like, it doesn't connect, there's a disconnect somewhere yeah yeah and I think, and they lose focus so um. I think that's why I've been in it and still stay in it. I don't think I'll well. For me, I know I'll never get out of Education ever that's just wow and years ago, in college myself, my sophomore roommate said you're going to be a teacher. I said no, I am not and now look and now look uh. I won't tell him that, though, so look. How was questions just popped in my mind, was the school that you that you went to wasn't a mixed school or was it predominantly black school, predominantly white school? It was uh the cosmetology I was in charge of school. It was all black. Oh, it was all black, so did you guys ever have any other ethnicities come into the school to get their hair done? No, never! No wow. The only the only time we we dealt with straight hair was on the mannequins, okay, okay, so my question was going to be so. I went to a school. That was predominantly, I mean we had a few black clients come into the school um, but it was predominantly white, and so what happened most of the time depending on who was there? Who was the instructor? The black clients would get the black people, the students and the white clients to go to the white students. Well, it ended up. I don't know how it changed, but we ended up doing both like it didn't matter. It was like you, no it doesn't matter. You should be able to do, hair hair is hair, and so that's how it ended up working out for us, but I was just interested in how you handled that, but you didn't have to handle that because it wasn't a thing for Words yeah. For me, it wasn't a thing at all, so when I got out and got my license and and got into um actually the first Salon I was at was a it was I mean it's a beautiful Salon. It had. It was hair nails, massage facials. It was a spa and it was, it was black owned. So most of the um clients that came in they were black and that's just what it was. I didn't get an opportunity to really get into different textures of hair until a few years later, when I went to a salon where the manager she understood, as we say now, she understood the assignment that manager she she's like. I will take people under my wing. I'M going to build a team, y'all may not always like each other, but we are going to be a team and we're going to work together and if anybody it was like that family we may fight amongst ourselves. But let somebody else come up in here. They ain't ready. She and her name was Sonya. She really put into US you're gon na. Do everything you're going to learn how to do everything. We'Re gon na show we're going to help and we're going to make we're going to make everyone better and when she left that's how I became the manager because she's like you're, ready to do this, and I was like huh. I I didn't think so. But it was time and and that's the line everybody came in everybody - men, women, children, black white, um, Hispanic Indian, I mean everywhere. So you got all kind of now and I was doing perms like you said the old lady, like they call the old lady perms. The perms, the perm perm, where you roll it with the rods yeah, I'm doing that and you know they still do that in school. Now they got ta do it, so I was doing that it was so it I learned. I'Ve learned so much there and I'm so thankful for her that she was that type of a leader that said once that said like, like, I believe now. Let me give it to you and it'll, be okay, because it's not taking anything from me and she did that for everybody in this world. That'S so good yeah! We had a tight team. We had a tight team, so yeah. That'S that's how I got dealing with all kinds of textures of hair, but yeah I mean hair is hair once you understand it, it's not like it depends. I don't care what color you are. Your color does not determine, or your nationality is not determined. What kind of hair you have I've seen it where people are like? Oh yeah, that's a black person! What they hear is growing straight out their head, so one thing: cosmetology, school and beauty school that you could change to change, because I believe that people ask me all the time like what do you think is like how what would you change in our beauty, industry And I always say whatever it is. I would change it at the Cosmetology School level, because that's the future of the industry, those people that are in cosmetology school and for me it was just making sure that everybody knows how to work with any type of hair. Because a lot of times, it's just not that way. I live out here in Vegas and sometimes it's hard to find a good Salon or a good stylist to go to to get your hair done because they have to ask you have to they have. To put you on hold and say: does anybody know how to work with textured hair textures come on, so we can change it right that you know changing that at the foundational level makes it would make a huge difference in the industry overall. So for you, what would be the thing that you would change in the industry? Okay or at the Cosmetology School level? Okay, maybe a little controversial. But what I would change is when it comes to admissions that they really tap into the questions that they're asking these future students - oh and really put in the students that are there for the knowledge and therefore the business and not there for the refund check. That'S what I would change, I understand, listen, listen! I get it because I have people come up in. I have people at my cosmetology school and I would just be like now. You know this is not your passion. You should not put a hot comb flat iron piece of color or shampoo on anybody's head anybody as soon as those refunds hit we're in such and such girl. I ain't seen her in yada yada. No, I totally get it yeah and I mean - and I get it it's a business, but it affects our business because I mean to put people out there who are really you know and of course nobody not everyone's going to be passionate about the beauty, business and But then there are so many other opportunities for people. If you're not passionate about this, then do something else. You have that option to do something else. You don't have to be here in a salon and make everybody else miserable because you're miserable, because you don't want to do what you do this anymore, do something else yeah you you have that opportunity to do that. So that's what I would I would change yeah. I I agree, I agree so so. Let'S talk about weaves, let's talk about wings yeah. So when did you, when did you develop an interest for wigs or was it for you like um? Were you just like okay? This is a part of our industry. That is not taught a lot in in cosmetology school. I think the section is like this big yeah yeah. If that, like it's like two pages, maybe three pages, and so you don't learn a lot about wigs and cosmetology school. But I I think I kind of know where you how you're gon na answer this, but when did when did the light bulb come on for you with wigs and like that level of wing making, so it I guess it really. There was an interest, but I didn't know how to go about it until I came across. You know your system and I said, okay, wigs are popular and I didn't even know that there was a possibility of making of of making a wig. So I said oh that's like, and then I was like okay. Well, that looks like it might be a little nice little streamer income learning how to do this and it was like it's another skill, so I said okay, let me do that because I wasn't the I wasn't, the god I wasn't the go-to guy for weaves and All this other stuff, I might have done a couple of sew-ins, but I wasn't that guy, but I said okay, if I can make a wig, then I wouldn't have to do a sew in um. But when I got into it and then I started seeing the process and seeing all that goes into it, that's what intrigued me and I was like wow - you can make this stuff from scratch and that that's what that's just really fascinated me that you could do This with this hair and then the whole ventilating thing, which I had no clue about, like I heard about lace, fronts and I'll talk about people, because you you can see the lace and they look the hot horrible mess but yeah I was like. Let me let me let me try my hand at it, because I might, it might actually be um, something that I enjoy, and it actually is something that I do enjoy so yeah. I mean it's amazing. I always say this is one of your. I think you and your faith, stylist D graduated from the same mentorship program right. I believe so I believe so so. Listen yeah! What'S up your face! Stylist foreign! I always say this. I always say that wig making opens up the door to so many other things that you don't even realize, and people always end up at my events and the the open door is wigs, but they end up doing all kinds of other things, because from that event, That you attended, I remember seeing you you were leaving. I think you left you were going to leave. You had to leave early to catch a flight, yep yep and but but but before you left, you joined the mentorship program, yes and then that kind of that going through the mentorship program. You had a breakthrough at the five-day event and then it has led you wig making, has led you down a slightly different path now than where you were even at then, and it's crazy to me how the open door was wigs. Yeah, oh yeah, the open! Well, the open door was wigs, but it was the opportunity to be in your presence. That'S what it was. That'S what it worked that I mean that's true, because if I hadn't years ago, gotten okay, the Braids by Breslin and then okay, the wigs it was like. Okay, let she's doing this event. Let me meet, I have to meet this woman like I have to meet this woman and I just yeah and then I was like okay, then, after that, like that three days, then it was like all right and she offers a mentorship program. Hmm, okay, which completely I mean yes, it. It was about the wigs, but it has really. It did change the dynamic of where I was where I was going and where I needed to where I needed to go and still on the Journey of uh. So it did open the door to meeting you and then the knowledge that you give out is there's. I mean it's often me it's all. It'S often meter um, so yeah like the week. I mean because it's and there's so much more to to wigs than what people may think like I even I know more now about hair and where it comes from and how it's I won't say harvested sounds so horrible, but I don't know I know, but but It'S the CR. I guess it would be the correct word yes, because that process, when you get into it and you find out you're like whoa, wait till you go over there yeah see I'm ready, it's a mind-blowing yeah. Just all of that, and I'm I'm loving, that I have that included in my repertoire of saying I'm a wig maker. You know I've made wigs like hey, you know and and to be able to do that, and I think you said before you don't have to make a full lace wig for somebody there's so many other things you can do um with this skill and with this Talent that truthfully, when you have Talent, technique and time you don't have to ask somebody for a job and that yes right there was laid into my spirit one day, because I kept getting no's no for this. No for that! No, for that and immediately you know said: oh, you already have the talent, you have the technique and you have the time you don't have to ask anybody for a job because you already have it um. So there is so good yeah, that's, and I think that for many of us and I've had this discussion with several people having a job is easy compared to being an entrepreneur entrepreneur. Entrepreneurship is not easy. It'S because you can have a job and do bare minimum and you're going to get a check every two weeks like I'm, not I'm just doing bare minimum and I'm you know I'm getting this check. Entrepreneurship does not end at five o'clock. It does not start at nine, it does not end at five, that's it. It keeps going and now the reward the reward is. What is why we do it um, but not just the money. No, no! No! It'S not it's not just the money. It'S not just money, it's not it's, not just the money and and when you get out of I'm doing it just for the money the money's going to come because you are sowing so many things into other people. Yes, yes, so you don't have to worry about them, because the money's just going to come just like opportunities will come. You have to be open to those opportunities and yeah. I just yeah. It'S it's it's it's! It'S I'm loving this journey, loving it it's a beautiful journey to be on because um, the pandemic messed up a lot of things for a lot of people, but it also what the pandemic also did was it made people think differently and it made people look at Circumstances in life differently and say: hold up: I'm not gon na watch, Netflix and chill all day. I have these things in me and these talents in me. How what what do I need to do and you you tapped in immediately and you start what did you? What did you? What was the first thing that you did because the the pandemic affected you right and your and your job at the time? Yeah it was um. I was a national trainer for a national company and we got on a you know. The pandemic happened. We were doing Zoom things and like that, but because I was a trainer and traveling, I couldn't travel well, one Friday. The whole training department was on zoom and you know the the director and the vice president came on the zoom and everybody's. You know cameras got shut down and they said today is you all's last day Victor? Yes, hello, somebody couldn't even couldn't even react. Huh without warning. Without there was no warning all. It was like well we're gon na have a meeting the whole training department, we're gon na, have a meeting and that Friday they're like okay - and this is gon na, be your last day and the director because she's a I mean a really nice woman. She I mean she got emotional about it, and so you know they had to. You know, cut her off and go somewhere else, but yeah it was. It was that it was like. I was like. Oh, oh, oh, okay, all right! So here we go so at that point. Okay! Now you have to pick immediately because, like now, what am I going to do? And then at that point a lot of it was like. Okay, I'm like I'm just gon na easily go out and get another job because there were no jobs to get there was that no one was hiring. He was like yeah. So now it's like okay, now you have these skills, you better put them to the test and you better start perfecting them because they won't. There won't always be a time when this pandemic is going on, although it's last a long time right now, but still you have you, you have these things so now, let's do this pivot. Let'S do this shift and because of the pivot and the shift, I feel that I'm now on that path of what I'm supposed to be doing really supposed to be doing, which is so um during this time. I started my own coaching and Consulting business and yeah and uh and the you know the funny thing is the class that I have um have had they're, not even in the beauty industry. This that's so wild when you so for everybody watching if you were at. If you were at the event in July, the first I heard of this was at the event, usually usually I I talk, you know to to people who have been through the mentorship program and stuff like that, and they will give me updates, like somebody like the Lord will lay them on my heart and I'm like hey. I was thinking about you, yada, yada, yada or sometimes they'll say hey, like normal people. I want to just give you an update this gentleman, the amazing human, that he is bring it on me at the live event with the microphone in his hand. I was totally shocked, I was totally shocked, but but that that just speaks to um everything like even the stuff that I just taught in fully booked wig maker. First of all, that class was crazy. There was so much that yeah that you shared and it was like what what huh like this okay it was. It was beyond good, great, so good it was so good. It was so many levels deep. It was so it was so so good, but it just speaks to even taking taking any really anything that I teach on the marketing side of things and implementing it into any type of business anytime. Okay, so back back to you back to you back to you it's on the edge of my seat, so my first I got ta say my first client was because you know you, you know we got to use family every once in a while. Okay, that's all right, that's all right! So, but first um client was my cousin. She has a business, a small business and she related that I want to. I want to grow my business, because I want that to be the thing that um sustains me. I said: okay um, I saw her work, she um she's, a crafter she's, also like a baker um and her work is beautiful. I was like oh okay and she's, like oh yeah, very humble, very modest. I'M like I couldn't do that stuff like at all. So I said, hmm, let me see, let me see if this thing, if I let me give it a little go at this thing, so we had calls every week I gave her assignments of what to do. Um. Yes, because I learned I gave her assignments, we talked about and I guess it can it's it. I guess it's more than even like coaching, because we talked about her finances, profit and loss. We talked about marketing, we talked about social media, we talked about going to events, it's yeah, we really get. We we dug deep into like her business and the information I was giving her. I was like okay. If I can do this with her, I know I can do this with other people. Sure enough referrals are a wonderful thing. Wonderful thing, referrals are they're the best they're your best marketing, if somebody can say, tell somebody else, but this is what he does. So you know give you know, have them yeah, because you don't have to try to convince anybody. It'S coming from somebody else that has experienced it. Yes and anyone that has done has been behind the chair know. The referrals are the best because you don't have to explain nothing to them. You don't have to you, don't have to go back and forth with pricing, because that person has already told them about you. Yes, love a good referral. So with that I got into it. Um got got a couple more folks that you know like that: weren't in the business and and work with them as well, and sometimes some some things are just Universal and a lot of small businesses. They don't think about certain things. They just do like they're good at what they do, but then it comes to okay. Well, what else? I'M just doing so! The ant farmer that I told you about the ant farmer y'all the ant farmer, who makes ant farms amazing work, um yeah ant farms, amazing work. I know a lot so much about ants, crickets praying mantis was just doing it. Doing I mean going about had all the connections to do these things? Okay, get the ant farmer. We talk about because you're, like I said, you're in business, like you said we're in business to make money um and that's that's just what it is so yeah. I asked them we went through, like I would say well how much, how much is it he didn't at the point know at one time know how much his his product, how much he put into his product, how much money he put into his product. He didn't know so we went through that then, the beginning of this year after I worked for him a little bit beginning of this year. He reached out and said that last year was the most money that he has made um ever in the business, and I heard that was when you, you worked with him last year, yeah and I worked with him last year - yeah, so that right there was really For me, like it's confirmation that you can do this, you can do this and that little that - and I don't know if anybody else has ever done this or had this happen to them, but not, but and you do something you feel good about it and that Little voice says you can do this. Yes, you have that feeling like you can do this. So I want to say anytime. You feel that it's too much always go back to that feeling of that little voice. That said, you can do this because you can't you can do it yeah, it's it's the little voice and sometimes a little voice gets drowned out by by your favorite expression. The head trash. It gets just get drowned out and you can't hear the little voice, but the little voice is still there telling that they're telling you that you can do it and people can and that little voice told me that little voice told me recently, because I started working Out again, because the pandemic was a horrible thing, just wait. I'M waking up this whole screen right now, but it's okay, the wait, listen, my cheeks got the top half and all this assistant, mark my words hey. I won't look like this in January. Okay, all right, then you know we heard it here. First yeah, I started working out this week and I was like okay and then that little boy said you can do this. I was like okay, I'm gon na hold on to you, because, oh because sometimes this whole working out is because I love sweets. Anybody that knows me knows that. I love yes on your Instagram, sometimes torturing, those of us who are not trying to go in that direction. There is a fresh baked pound cake downstairs as we speak. I just made it today Victor, it's not for me, though smelled up the house, so next time you come to Vegas, I would I would love listen. I think I don't know if y'all knew this or not this now. This right here is just ridiculous. I should not have done this so at my live event. I had some one of the volunteers, one of Anaya's friends Bella. I had I had Bella's mom bake two dozen of cupcakes right now I was gon na. Take these cupcakes downstairs for the volunteers. They never made it. I didn't eat all two dozen I didn't know, but I left them in my room on purpose, but man I took them things home. Oh, my gosh see that's what's wrong. That'S that's! That'S the problem. I feel you I get it. Yes, it's it yeah, oh the the sweets like, and I like the healthy stuff too. She said yeah, yeah, Valencia know she knows she knows about that pound cake. He knows by the pound cake. So I had to save her some um but yeah it's just. It was: where did we go? I don't even know we were talking about the listening to the little voice. The ant farmer is that the proper name yeah yeah okay, so he made the most money he had ever made the first year. He worked with you yeah. So you're going on two years working with him. Well, he has been doing it for several years before oh wow yeah. So he's been doing this. This was something that he that he did. I mean he had his business model and what he was doing was amazing. It'S just that he didn't know the little details and that's when someone has to come in and say. Let me look at your business from another perspective and that's what I was able to do looking from another perspective, because you know sometimes when we're just in it. We'Re in it - and we don't see anything else - that's going on um, but that was that was that I mean it's a great experience um and I well from a conversation that we had previously. I should be getting my my first Beauty: uh professional, yes um. Yes, yes for coaching in about a month or so when, when she's ready, because we've had we've had a discussion already and she's she's enthusiastic she's gon na, be you know fresh starting her own business and she's like I need she's like I need coaching. I need all of this. I was like okay, I was like we can. We can absolutely have a conversation um about that and go from there yeah Victor. This is amazing. It'S really. It'S really amazing. The thing that I love about you, the most, is your willingness to be open to learn your Forever student. Yes, you've been in the industry for 17 years and you're still learning actively just like like a brand new student. That'S that's! You have to always constantly be in a state of learning, and I absolutely love that about you. So where, where are you with wigs now, are you still making wigs? Are you still doing wigs? Are you focused shifting your focus to just clients? I I'm still making wigs they're making wigs. I really really enjoy ventilating it is. It is so relaxing I put on some music and just just and when I get that Rhythm, just just go just go. I like making um the closure pieces. Yes, I'm going to get started getting into like repairs. Things like that now, the full head - maybe not maybe still it's gon na - have to be special, because that's what I say I'd rather not I teach it it's wonderful and it's great honestly. It really is, but I would prefer to make some of the smaller pieces. Yes yeah, because a full one is whoo, it's a lot and it's smart. What, when it's done? It'S gratifying like the one that um yeah the the the luck? No, oh! Yes, that lock top what I did - and I I enjoyed doing that was that was a lot of time, because there was so many steps in it. It'S like okay, ventilate, the hair and then you're gon na do the faux Locs on it and it was like it was a lot. But it was satisfying to um to see it all finished and on and on a human being other than the the wig block. But I still enjoyed it, it was beautiful. Thank you so you're welcome. I I still enjoy it. I I don't. I think it's a skill, I'll just have and keep um right and here's another thing too. Real quick, also the thing that got me into wigs too. Like years ago um I was working with an individual who worked in Hollywood. She worked in Hollywood, she's, a colorist um, and she worked on um, the Captain, America and Marvel films, and also she worked on Hunger Games as like the colorist. So she was talking about wigs and things like that, and she said she never said the lady's name. She said, but this is older lady who actually makes all these wigs and they would send them to her to color and then the older lady. This is a few years ago, the older lady, that she makes the wigs for these um movie companies the hero, wigs yep, and so she makes the hero, wigs um, the person. I know she colors them and then sends it off and then, when it's time for you know for it to be recolored, they would fly her out, so she would be on set and she would have to retouch it and everything like that, because the wigs fade. The color enough I was like there's Wick. I was like that's not that probably that class that I took with that was probably like: oh huh, coloring, wigs too hmm, okay, so that was. That was another thing. That kind of did it too amazing, I'm telling you! I tell I tell people all the time they sleep on wigs. Well, probably not now, but I mean for a long time, people sleep on wigs, like don't sleep on the wig Community. There are so many different things that you can do and you know it's. I always laugh at the people that get so caught up in the minutia, like the minutia of the making of the full lace, wigs um, uh uh. You didn't tie that knot right or it should be double knotted over here, or it should be this first of all. Does the client like it right right? That'S all that matters, and as long as it fits right - and it looks amazing - none of that other stuff matters, but I love the the making of the smaller pieces and, of course, these pu patches and these hair patches that people are making, because you might have A client that comes in that does not have full hair loss. It might be maybe like a spot here in the spot here and they don't need to shave off their heads or or wear a whole piece. You could just use patches, you could. The possibilities are endless with this stuff and the Pu is like. Oh, my goodness, those and the crazy thing is the the man weaves, the man wheeze people are selling the man weaves and installing them and they're like five six seven hundred dollars. Yes, they don't even make them, they don't have to make them. No, they just install it and cut it down. I was like yes, you're, not even making it so. Yes, yeah the possibilities are endless. Endless Victor. I could talk to you all day. You know we are, we are up in time we are up in time, but before we go um, what is one thing that you want to leave people with whether it's uh a quote, a tip, a strategy, something what is something that you want to leave people With before we go um, I want to leave out I'll say this. We are all here for a reason that part yeah that part. We are all here for a reason, and there are too many times we let other people dictate to us. Why we shouldn't be here or why we shouldn't be in certain positions that we are in you better? It is not left up to them. We are here for a reason. You tap into your reason, and you live this life like live it to the fullest, like what they say to the wheels fall off, because it's yours, it's no one else's. It'S yours and other people's opinion of how you live. Your life provide that you are not in impeding on anyone else. It'S none of your business. This says that again, none of your business, yes, live the life that you have dreamed of and just continue to strive like every day that we hear um, because it's it not not to say that oh it's everything's, gon na be rainbows and puppies. It'S not! No! Absolutely not, but always know that, and this is very for there is always Sun at the end of this storm. The storm doesn't last forever. Now there may be some destruction, but you can come out of it, provided that you are prepared, and you know who you are. That'S what I got it's beautiful. It'S perfect. I love it. Thank you so much and tell everybody before we go, I'm going to link everything up, but tell everybody where they can find you online how they can follow you if they want to hire you for Consulting all that good stuff, all the good stuff. So the best way to reach me is through Instagram um um in my hashtag. Well, I'm a hashtag. My Instagram name is, I am Victor Moore, so that's the best way to reach me um. We can have some conversations, um yeah, that that's me, I'm victim. That'S the best way, yeah all right, all right there, you have it um I'll, make sure to throw a link in the description too um, for you guys to go, make sure you go and follow Victor um. He is hilarious if you haven't been able to tell but he's just an amazing, all-around, amazing human being um he's very genuine and he's very straightforward. You forget an honest answer. Yes, but that's what makes Victor who he is, and I love that you've owned, who you are and um. It'S just all around amazing to see uh to see what you're doing now and how amazing it is that you're working with these other companies and just putting skills to use - I absolutely love it so Victor. Thank you so much. I know it's late on the East Coast. I appreciate you taking the time to hang out we're gon na have to do this again, Victor hey! We can do this again. Yeah we're gon na have to do this again. Thank you guys so much for tuning in and hanging out with us. God bless you and I'll talk to y'all soon, bye,